15 car accident 1/18/15

E 160 and R 5 might have done better walking to the scene due to the icing conditions on the roads.
 
After reading this I'm just wondering if any of the FDNY units have chains of any type either automatic or manually installed?  I know a lot of units are now going to the automatic chains so they can be used as needed very rapidly.
 
johnd248 said:
E 160 and R 5 might have done better walking to the scene due to the icing conditions on the roads.
Quarters are right down the block. All-Hands used, FDNY Twitter reporting that E160 also involved in the MVA.

Engine 160 / Rescue 5 First Due

Probably: E160, E152, E159, E153
              T077, L081, L078F
              RS05, SQ01
              Bn. 21, 22
 
I can't answer for today's FDNY, but I remember lots of chains on apparatus in NYC when I was in  high school in  the 1950's.
 
FDNYSTATENISLAND said:
johnd248 said:
E 160 and R 5 might have done better walking to the scene due to the icing conditions on the roads.
Quarters are right down the block. All-Hands used, FDNY Twitter reporting that E160 also involved in the MVA.

Engine 160 / Rescue 5 First Due

Probably: E160, E152, E159, E153
              T077, L081, L078F
              RS05, SQ01
              Bn. 21, 22

They sent a 10-75 assignment to a MVA. Figure it would be 1&2 w/ the Scue & BC
 
Bulldog said:
After reading this I'm just wondering if any of the FDNY units have chains of any type either automatic or manually installed?  I know a lot of units are now going to the automatic chains so they can be used as needed very rapidly.

Still using the manually installed chains on rigs and ambulances I believe, unless some newer units have had the automatic chains installed.
 
Chains might have helped a little but they would have bounced you all over and still would have slid with them, once they stoped you had to worry about everyone sliding into the stopped appratus
 
BCR said:
Chains might have helped a little but they would have bounced you all over and still would have slid with them, once they stoped you had to worry about everyone sliding into the stopped appratus
I really wasn't thinking about them for the situation as much is in general.  They certainly help considerably when you get a snow build up on the roads and under those conditions you are going to have much other traffic on the roads.
 
ON THE CHAIN ISSUE.....Agreed chains are primarily useful in snow....Manually installed chains still being used on FDNY Rigs....the drawback is that after a snow storm ends some streets are plowed before others so on a run you have some streets w/snow where the chains are good but then on the plowed streets the chains can be  damaged....A Rescue Rig for instance that has long distance Runs both on & off highways can go thru several sets during a heavy winter.....a real pain is when a chain breaks on a highway & you must stop & cut the remaining portion off......the larger the Rig of course the better the traction in snow will be.....the lighter Chiefs Rigs would certainly benefit from an automatic chain installation .....these Chief Rigs even though 4 WD do not really have the best tires on them to utilize the 4WD system & the FFs who drive them are not specifically schooled in using 4WD in deep snow.
 
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