5/12/25 Baltimore MD 7th Alarm Box 36-1

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Signal73

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Fire Location: Edmonson Ave & N Bentalou St

Units have a multi story warehouse with fire throughout.

2nd Alarm on Arrival

Maybe: (No Idea)
E-36,30,14,47
L-8,23
B-3
R-1
Medic-12,15,21

Command Strike The 3rd Alarm

Command Requesting Mutual Aid For A 2ND Tower BWI Tower

Command Strike The 4th Alarm

Command Special Request For T20 To Bring The Reserve Tower To The Scene

Command Reporting Heavy Fire Behind Several Roll Up Doors

Command Strike The 5th Alarm At This Time @20:30

Command Requesting The Evacuation Of A Apartment Building Complex Requesting Red Cross To The Scene

Command Strike The 6th Alarm @21:23

Command Requesting 7th Alarm Units To Staging @21:59

Command Requesting 2 Additional Engines To Staging

M/A Run Down Baltimore County MD Howard County MD Anne Arundel County MD And Harford County MD

Fire remains contained to the original fire building. BCFD is operating with a third alarm equivalent continuing to chase hotspots and a deep seated fire in multiple locations @06:45
 
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Couple of minor corrections. Job town is closed for repairs so Engine 8 is running from Truck % and 10 Truck is at Stedman.
The residential unit along Bentalou (I hate that name, they need to rename that street) appear to be single family row houses, that may be attached.
Chief Dean Denning was in Car 5 as the Shift Commander, Chief John Eid took command about the 6th alarm, Chief Wallace and Chief Dante Stewart were also part of the Command structure.
The old Providence (RI) Air Supply unit was on the scene---It has been parked across the street for an unknown period of time
This location is about 7 blocks from one of the prime buff staging areas in the city
 
Signal73 said:
Fire Location: Edmonson Ave & N Bentalou St

Units have a multi story warehouse with fire throughout.

2nd Alarm on Arrival

Maybe: (No Idea)
E-36,30,14,47
L-8,23
B-3
R-1
Medic-12,15,21

Command Strike The 3rd Alarm

Command Requesting Mutual Aid For A 2ND Tower BWI Tower

Command Strike The 4th Alarm

Command Special Request For T20 To Bring The Reserve Tower To The Scene

Command Reporting Heavy Fire Behind Several Roll Up Doors

Command Strike The 5th Alarm At This Time @20:30

Command Requesting The Evacuation Of A Apartment Building Complex Requesting Red Cross To The Scene

Command Strike The 6th Alarm @21:23

Command Requesting 7th Alarm Units To Staging @21:59

Command Requesting 2 Additional Engines To Staging

M/A Run Down Baltimore County MD Howard County MD Anne Arundel County MD And Harford County MD

Fire remains contained to the original fire building. BCFD is operating with a third alarm equivalent continuing to chase hotspots and a deep seated fire in multiple locations @06:45
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Is there a full list of units assigned on this fire? And mutual aid?
 
Good firefighters in Baltimore, these warehouse fires in Heavy Timber = Class 4 Construction are dangerous. At one time I worked in the Lower Manhattan's Loft building area. Over the years I had few fires in these Loft Class 4 heavy timber buildings and just about all them collapsed during the major fires. The area was so bad in the 1950's the FDNY called the Loft district in lower Manhattan's "Hell's Hundred Acres". Many FDNY Firemen and some Fire Patrolman were killed in these fires and collapses. When I was working in Lower Manhattan in the early 1970s.
I worked E-27, E-17 L-11, TL-18 and had major fires in Loft Buildings in spite of the required Sprinkler Systems in almost all of these Heavy Timber Building. Beware the "Collapse Zone Brothers & Sisters" the collapse zone is No Less than 1 and 1/2 Times the Height of the Building. Below is some photographs of a collapse of a heavy timber factory building on East N.Y. Ave. and Chester Street in 1970. The building in 1970 was 4 stores and during the advanced fire it split from top rear to bottom front on a diagonal and collapsed. Some collapse debris spread 165 ft. from the fire building. I know I was there Buffing the fire as a FDNY Auxiliary Firemen. Stay safe and be aware of heavy timber buildings.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 21 retiredFDNY 4-4 1658 Chester St. Fire & After the Collapse.jpgFDNY Brownsville War Years Chester St..jpgFDNY Brownsville war Years After the wall Collapse.jpg
 
Hell's Hundred Acres- Boundaries: Chambers Street on the south; the Bowery on the east; West Broadway on the west; West 8th Street on the north.

This area had a large number of tenements converted to lofts with removal of structural partitions to allow manufacturing operations. Hundreds of buildings in use had extensive damage from previous fires. Hot cast iron columns and fronts would fail suddenly when hit by a hose stream. Subcellars were common and arriving companies hated seeing a thirty five straight ladder buried in the sidewalk. Some buildings on Broadway had subcellars extending 200 feet to Mercer Street. Hazardous chemical were everywhere. One night members of Ladder 20 (in their old quarters at 155 Mercer Street) were playing cards in the rear when a celluloid vault in a building across the alley on Greene Street exploded, seriously injuring several men.
 
Yes, we had tenements in Hell's Hundred Acres, but they were not converted into lofts. The Heavy Timber Loft Building are buildings = Class 4. The tenement are & were Brick and Joist =Class 3 Buildings. Many of the lofts when I worked there in the 1970s & 1980s were repurposed to include large open apartments = A.I.R. "Artest In Residence" Building dwelling units. That happen because by that time the all the true lofts had been fully sprinkled, and they were mostly vacant. The Art people wanted these large spaces for their artistic endeavors, so laws were passed to ensure their safety including required signs notify the FDNY, and everyone else upon entry that there were AIRs in the loft building. Right before I retired in 2000, I worked overtime as a Captain, in Tower Ladder 9 and had "B.I. = Building Inspection "A.F.I.D." = Apparatus Field Inspection Duty and we had to inspect a few of these lofts. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
 
Tough day for BCFD yesterday. They had a LT suffer a medical emergency at another fire and fell from the aerial ladder. He’s in critical but guarded condition.
 
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At some point in time property owners found that tenements could be more valuable when converted to manufacturing occupancies.

Most of these were north of Canal Street and used in the garment trade.

These conversions had retro-installed elevators, roof water tanks, and altered interior walls.

As you would expect, they were notorious collapse hazards.
 
I lived on Greene Street our large basements were inter-connected with others. Our building had an Exit on the Wooster Street side only if You knew how to get there. It was a challenge.
 
entropychaser said:
Hell's Hundred Acres- Boundaries: Chambers Street on the south; the Bowery on the east; West Broadway on the west; West 8th Street on the north.

This area had a large number of tenements converted to lofts with removal of structural partitions to allow manufacturing operations. Hundreds of buildings in use had extensive damage from previous fires. Hot cast iron columns and fronts would fail suddenly when hit by a hose stream. Subcellars were common and arriving companies hated seeing a thirty five straight ladder buried in the sidewalk. Some buildings on Broadway had subcellars extending 200 feet to Mercer Street. Hazardous chemical were everywhere. One night members of Ladder 20 (in their old quarters at 155 Mercer Street) were playing cards in the rear when a celluloid vault in a building across the alley on Greene Street exploded, seriously injuring several men.
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There was a large fire in a loft building on broadway on Valentine’s Day 1979 where the building ran from broadway to Mercer street. It had a disco occupancy on the first floor and commercial and residential on the floors above. The owner of the property was doing a “freeze out” and had the hot water/heat shut off after a certain time which caused the sprinkler system to freeze.

 
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