5/5/10 Brooklyn Box 3564 - 2nd Alarm

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Coney Island, Brooklyn, NY, 5/5/10

Address: 3021 W12 st near Surf Ave

20:05 hours
Phone Box 3564 - Report of a store fire
Engs. 245, 318, 246
TL161, L166
Battalion 43

10-75-3564 - 20:07 hours
E253
L169 (FAST Truck)
Battalion 33
Squad 1
Rescue 5
Division 8

7-5-3564 - 20:10 hours
RAC5

2-2-3564 - 20:10 hours
Engs. 254, 243, 330, 276
E284 w/ Satellite 3
TL153, L168
Battalion 40 (Safety Officer)
Battalion 48 (Resource Unit Leader)
Safety, Rescue Battalions
Tactical Support 2
FieldCom, Command Tactical Unit

20:14 hours - Duration 9 minutes
Battalion 43: Box 3564, we have a fire in the cockpit of a 1 story 50x100 unoccupied commercial dwelling.  The address is unknown at this time.  We have 2 lines stretched, 1 in operation..  Fire is Doubtful at this time.

Exposures are:
1 - street
2 - attached
3 - attached
4 - alley

20:15 hours
The staging area is on Stillwell Ave just south of the fire.

20:18 hours
BC43: At Box 3564, can you get PD on the scene please for crowd control.

20:19 hours
Car 16 (DAC Robert Boyce Jr., Chief of Communications) is responding

20:21 hours - Duration 16 minutes
BC43: Progress report for Box 3564, we have a tower ladder in operation, we're going to an exterior operation at this time, the fire is through the roof and we're setting up another tower ladder.  Still no address at this time, the Coney Island Arcade is the name of the establishment.

20:26 hours
Address for the Coney Island Arcade believed to be 3019 W12 st, no CIDS for the address.

20:32 hours - Duration 27 minutes
Division 8: At Box 3564, we believe the address to be 3019 W12 st, ADC Glenn reports we have fire in a 1 story commercial arcade.  We have 4 lines stretched, 4 in operation, going to an outside operation.  We have 2 tower ladders up, all members have been accounted for, fire is Doubtful at this time.

20:33 hours
Staging area changed to Stillwell Ave and Mermaid Ave.

20:42 hours - Duration 37 minutes
FieldCom: Transmit a 10-41 code 2 (Suspicious Fire, Vacant Structure), heavy volume of fire on arrival.

20:57 hours - Duration 51 minutes
FC: Progress report for your 2nd alarm Box 3564, the corrected address is 3041 W 12 street off Surf Ave, Car 16, DAC Boyce, has fire in a 1 story commercial 50x100.  Car 16, Chief Boyce, reports he has 4 lines stretched to the exterior, 2 in operation.  He has 2 tower ladders in operation knocking down fire in the cockloft, this fire remains Doubtful, k.

21:01 hours
FC: Special call 2 trucks, and the corrected address is 3021 W12th St.
L156, TL172 S/C

21:07 hours
Now receiving a class 3 alarm for 1201 Surf Ave (believed to be the Matrix Building around the corner)

21:10 hours
FC: We do not have anyone available to check that class 3, can you send out another assignment.

21:35 hours - Duration 1 hour 29 minutes
FC: 2nd Alarm Box 3564, the address 3021 W 12 st, Car 16, DAC Boyce, reports fire in a 1 story commercial vacant 50x100,  Car 16, DAC Boyce reports: He has 5 lines stretched, 4 in operation from the exterior, 1 from the exposure 2 2nd floor window hitting the fire from there.  2 tower ladders in operation, still knocking down pockets of fire in the cockloft.  Fire still Doubtful.

22:09 hours - Duration 2 hours 3 minutes
FC: Progress report for your 2nd Alarm Box 3564, the address is 3021 W12 st off Surf Ave, Car 16, DAC Boyce reports he had fire in a 1 story commercial vacant 100x50.  Car 16, DAC Boyce, reports: the handlines and tower ladders have been shut down.  All visible fire has been knocked down.  At this time they're doing an assessment from the exterior of the stability of the interior.  Fire is still Doubtful.

22:12 hours - Duration 2 hours 7 minutes
FC: Progress report for your 2nd Alarm Box 3564, the address is 3021 W12 st off Surf Ave, Car 16, DAC Boyce reports they have 1 line stretched into the building, conducting a primary searches, fire is Probably Will Hold.

22:25 hours
Car 16 is 10-8, Division 8 is Incident Commander

22:39 hours - Duration 2 hours 34 minutes
FC: Progress report for your 2nd Alarm Box 3564, the address is 3021 W12 st off Surf Ave.  Division 8 reports he had fire in a 1 story commercial vacant 100x50.  Division 8 reports primary and secondary searches are complete and negative, fire Under Control.

Relocations:
Engines: 247/243, 281/245, 202/253, 220/284, 210/220, 228/330
Ladders: 120/153, 102/156, 149/161
Battalions: 32/40, 39/43
 
R1SmokeEater said:
IRISH said:
CFDMarshal said:
Where was Rescue 2?
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Rescue 5 cover some parts of Brooklyn
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Rescue-5 is assigned in Coney, being closer in SI than R-2 coming from Bergen st. in Bklyn.
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This was not the case when there was a Div. 12 about 20 years ago.  Leaving SI w/o a rescue unit makes no sense.  Traffic volume on the bridge determines who is sent I think.
 
Courtesy of Ex Chief:


Brooklyn,  N. Y.  05/05/10  @  20:15 hrs.
Coney  Island  Section

Box  3564
address:              3021  West  12th  St.
between:            Surf  Ave.    &    the  Boardwalk

3564  @  20:05
Engs.  245,  318,  246
T. Lad.  161,  Lad.  166
Batt.  43

10 ? 75 ? 3564  @  20:07
Ladder  169  is  designated  as  the  ?FAST?  Truck
Eng.  253
Rescue  Co.  #5
Squad  Co.  #1
Batt.  42
Division  8

Fire  Building:
1  Story  Brick  100 x 50    Vacant  Arcade
Surrounding  Properties:
Exp. #1:  Is  a  Street
Exp. #2:  Is  a  2  Story  Commercial  attach
Exp. #3:  Is  a  Similar  Type  attach
Exp. #4:  Is  an  Alleyway

All ? Hands:
7 ? 5 ? 3564  @  20:08
Batt.  43  reports:    Box  3564,  Using  All ? Hands.    Fire  in  a  1  Story  Commercial,
a  Vacant  Arcade.      Trucks  are  ?Opening  Up?      Fire?s  Doubtful.

2nd  Alarm:
2 ? 2 ? 3564  @  20:12
Engs.  254,  243,  330,  276
T. Lad.  153,    Lad.  168
Eng.  284  w /  Satellite  3
Batt.  40  ?Safety  Officer?
Batt.  48  ?Resource  Unit  Leader?
Rescue  Battalion  /  Safety  Battalion
Fieldcom  1  /  Tactical  Support  Unit  #2
Command  Tactical  Unit
Car  16:    Deputy  Assist.  Chief  Robert  Boyce

@  20:14
Batt.  43:    Box  3564,    We  have  a  fire  in  a  1  Story  Commercial,    a  Vacant  Arcade.
We  have  2 ? lines  stretched,    1 ? line  in  operation.    Trucks  are  ?Opening  Up?

@  20:24
Batt.  43:    Box  3564,  We  have  ( 1 )  TowerLadder  in  operation.    Going  to  an  exterior
operation.    Fire  in  the  roof.    Process  of  setting  up  the  2nd.  TowerLadder.      Primary
Searches  are  delayed.

@  20:32
Division  8:    At  Box  3564,    Fire  in  a  1  Story  Arcade.    We?re  in  an  outside  operation.
4 ? lines  stretched,    4 ? lines  in  operation.  ( 2 )  TowerLadders  in  operation.    All  members
are  accounted  for.    Fire  is  Doubtful.

@  20:57
Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  2nd  Alarm,  Box  3564,  Car  16,  Deputy  Assist.  Chief  Boyce
reports:    Fire  in  a  1  Story  vacant  Arcade.    4 ? lines  stretched,  2 ? lines  in  operation.
( 1 )  TowerLadder  in  operation  knocking  down  fire  in  the  Cockloft.      Fire  Still  Doubtful.

@  21:01
Fieldcom  1:    Special  Call  ( 2 )  additional  Trucks.
Ladder  156    &    TowerLadder  172  are  s/c

@  21:35
Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  2nd  Alarm,  Box  3564,  Car  16,  Deputy  Assist.  Chief  Boyce
reports:      5 ? lines  stretched,    4 ? lines  in  operation.    ( 1 )  line  operating  from  the  window  on
the  2nd  floor  of  Exp. #2  knocking  down  fire  in  the  Cockloft.        ( 2 )  TowerLadders  in  operation.
Still  Doubtful.

@  22:09
Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  2nd  Alarm,  Box  3564,  Car  16,  Deputy  Assist.  Chief  Boyce
reports:      Hand-lines  and  TowerLadder  have  been  shut  down.    All  visible  fire  has  been  knocked
down.  Process  of  doing  an  assessment  of  the  interior  stability.    Fire  is  Still  Doubtful.

@  22:12
Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  2nd  Alarm,  Box  3564,  Car  16,  Deputy  Assist.  Chief  Boyce
reports:      A  visual  Primary  Search  is  being  conducted  from  the  exterior.
Fire  is  Probably  Will  Hold.

@  22:40
Fieldcom  1:      Progress  Report  for  the  2nd  Alarm,  Box  3564,    Division  8  reports:
All  Primary  &  Secondary  Searches  thru  out  are  complete  and  negative.   
Fire  is  UnderControl.

(  Job  Duration:  2 hrs.  /  34 mins. )


 
Rescue 5 is 8.1 miles away and 15 minutes per Mapquest to this Coney Island address.
Rescue 2 is 11.1 miles away and 26 minutes per Mapquest.
R5 can also respond rapidly into Bay Ridge and Coney Island using the SI Expressway, bridge and Belt Pkwy.

The point about SI coverage is good.  SI always had minimal Rescue/special unit coverage.  Ladder 78 doubled as Rescue 5 in the 1950s and early 60s.  They had a home-made converted hose wagon.  That was in the days when you had to use the ferries to get to SI from Blyyn or Manhattan.  I guess they disbanded R5 when the bridge was built.  (It was not disbanded by Bloomberg back then, but he probably would take credit.)  It still took Rescue 2 probably a half hour or more with the bridge to respond to many parts of SI before Rescue 5 was reorganized at E 160 in the 1980s.

Rescue 2 used to be assigned on the 3rd alarm to Coney Island boxes in the late 60s and 1970s.  There was no rescue or squad on all hands or 2nds.
 
I understand and respect the need for copyright protection and to prevent unauthorized reproduction, but the "First on Scene" banner across the center of each photo is way too intense.  It makes it difficult to view the content.  Just a suggestion for the future... reduce the contrast of the banner or move it to an edge of the image.  Nice shots, tho,  all in all.

FWIW    :-\
 
RESCUE 5 STATEN ISLAND
ORG. 14 Brighton Ave. At E-155 (May 16, 1948)
DISB. (Jun. 1, 1962)
REORG. 1850 Clove Rd. At E-160 (Aug. 20, 1984)
 
There's a few boxes way down that way that are R-2's. But like was stated before, it's generally accepted that just about anything in the 8th Division in Brooklyn is R-5's.
 
bklyndisp54 said:
I understand and respect the need for copyright protection and to prevent unauthorized reproduction, but the "First on Scene" banner across the center of each photo is way too intense.  It makes it difficult to view the content.  Just a suggestion for the future... reduce the contrast of the banner or move it to an edge of the image.   Nice shots, tho,  all in all.

FWIW    :-\
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You need to go to Lou Minutoli's site and send him this note.
 
REDDEVIL_59 said:
R1SmokeEater said:
IRISH said:
CFDMarshal said:
Where was Rescue 2?
Click to expand...

Rescue 5 cover some parts of Brooklyn
Click to expand...

Rescue-5 is assigned in Coney, being closer in SI than R-2 coming from Bergen st. in Bklyn.
Click to expand...
This was not the case when there was a Div. 12 about 20 years ago.  Leaving SI w/o a rescue unit makes no sense.  Traffic volume on the bridge determines who is sent I think.
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I remember reading ( and i think it was in a forum chat in here somewhere ) from a Ret. FDNY member that back when R5 started responding to boxes in Brooklyn that the guys in R2 were not happy with work being taking away from them in Brooklyn.

Also on leaving S.I without a rescue unit - would it make sence in S.I to have a Squad?? I know S.I isnt busy enough for a Squad and Budget is empty but its cover in case anything kicks off when R5 is in Brooklyn
 
Coney Island; hot dogs, rides, cotton candy, the ocean, and fun for the whole family. Over the years all that seems to be disappearing. Very sad to see this landmark burning. Just a Great place to be. I'd watch Engine 245, and Ladder 161 ride by with the decal of clowns and Coney Island on the side of the rig. The picture described their response area, which I would guess was once one of the best amusement parks around. "Good Bye Coney Island".
 
Coney Island of the 1940'sp


Engine 244 W.15 St Coney Island
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Old quarters Engine 245, Ladder 161, BC 43
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engine245.jpg
 
"Mack", Thanks for posting those pictures and that video of Coney Island. The 1940s video was a little before My Time, but I do think that I saw my good friend "Johnnyd248" riding those little fire trucks, back in the 1940s.
  Reality is that Coney Island just isn't the same today. Many Amusment Parks throughout the country have taken the same path as Coney Island. As a young kid, I relate very much to an Amusement Park in Bridgeport, Ct. It was called "Pleasure Beach". Things started going down the tubes there in the late 60s. Eventually, Everything from the roller coaster, to the ticket booth was burned out. Today, what used to be a Great Fun Place, is just one massive weed covered waste land. As time went on, instead of enjoying the rides, I buffed the fires out there. I said my "Good Bye to Bridgeport's Pleasure Beach" many years ago.
 
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