75-1146 on 10/10

[johnd248]

Batt. 40 operating at box 1146 at 4th Avenue at 81 Street, Bay Ridge Section of Brooklyn.  Fire in a subway grating with a homeless individual trapped below grade.

Engines 242, 241, 284   Ladders 109, 149   Batt. 40
Ladder 114(fast truck), Field Comm, Engine 276- ( Field Comm Satellite Unit), Squad 1, TAC 2, Safety Batt., Engine 3/High Rise Unit, Rescue 5, Div. 8.  RAC 5 assigned.

@2134: Batt. 6 assigned as transit liaison officer.

@2135: Batt. 40: one victim removed, 10-45 no code.

@2137: Batt. 40: fire knocked down, probably will hold, return squad, rescue, and all special units.  Squad 1 and Rescue 5 10-8.

@2139: RAC 5 is 10-84.

@2141: Batt. 40 advises that Batt. 6 can go 10-8.

@2144: Engine 246 acting Engine 242 is 10-8; Engine 202 acting Engine 241 is 10-8.

@2148: Div. 8 places this fire under control.

 

[catry]

The balance of the All-Hands I believe was E201, E276 (FieldCom Satellite), E3 w/ High-Rise 1, Battalion 42, Safety Battalion, Tactical Support 2, Division 8, Rescue 5, Squad 1, RAC5, FieldCom, and Battalion 6 as TLO liaison to the TA Control Center at W54 st/7th Ave in Manhattan

EDIT: And just as I hit enter I see you updated.  Nice timing!  ;D

 

[johnd248]

It's so hard to get good help these days.

 

[vbcapt]

why do they use a hi-rise unit in the subways?

 

[FDNY150]

For the fans they carry.

 

[bklyndisp54]

"Fire in a subway grating with a homeless individual trapped below grade."

All those rigs and members for this?  Can anyone please explain the logic or reason behind this kind of dispatch policy.  From the description, it could have been 1+1 with the rest fast plus a 10-44.

I'm surprised they didn't call out the Mexican Navy! 

[No denigration or disrespect to that armed force intended].

 

[johnd248]

I agree it is a lot of equipment, but the IC stated it was a below grade incident.  There is a set protocol for that now.  I also believe they thought there were additional victims.

 

[bklyndisp54]

JohnD you are probably right.  I just think that commanders should have both the power and the nerve to break protocol. 

I'm thinking back to a time when a marine company was automatically assigned to respond to boxes along 1st Avenue in Brooklyn.  I suggested to the powers that be that the Supv. Dispatcher should have the authority to hold back the boat if the box was going out for an obviously land based incident (e.g. smoke in a 2nd floor apartment).

They looked at me like I had 3 heads.  Institutional thinking.

 

[FDNY150]

An all hands below grade gets all those extra units, as per dispatch policy. Sometimes I don't think the IC's know exactly what they are getting sometimes. Then we tell them and they turn a lot of it, if not all of it around.