What a shame. I think the economy factors in, but I also think the "new breed" doesn't want to put in the time to train, take time to respond to calls and just get dirty. There are even some paid departments that have trouble recruiting and retaining members. The call to service is, sadly...
I can't tell you how many times I heard "...you'll ain't from around here are you..." or "...you're a Yankee ain't ya..." just because I was using a Halligan tool. Southern hospitality is real, just depends on who you are or where you're from.
I completely agree, a case of too much protective layering. But the guys who were doing this felt they could "stay in longer and search deeper" so, for them, it was an acceptable trade-off. Plus they dressed down as quickly as possible after exiting the fire building.
Had a friend years ago who was assigned to Ladder 19. We had many interesting discussions regarding ladder company tactics. Unlike many truck companies in the area (i.e. Houston, Humble, etc.), 19 seemed to be an aggressive truck and prided themselves at that. It was also the only place I heard...
On another site, it was reported Danny DeJesus of E-280 passed away. He was appointed 1/11/69, retired 8/1/76 and passed on 6/22/25. He was a quiet man in a house full of characters and will be missed. Rest in Peace, Danny.
As I remember it, the WTC was at least three 5th alarms with some 3rd's and 2nd's all transmitted for different sites within the WTC complex. All told, I believe that in total, it was the equivalent of 23 alarms.
I think it's a control issue. In the public's eyes (and in the administration's as well) a fifth alarm is more manageable (i.e. under control) than a seventh, ninth or a tenth alarm. We have everything under control, see nothing went past a fifth alarm.
It's also like fire related deaths. At...
Back in the day, when the city was burning down, O'Hagan was closing companies and ordering chiefs not to transmit greater alarms. Everyone knew the city was burning down, but statistically O'Hagan could demonstrate that greater alarms were down.
Only a few years ago, FDNY had formal assignments...
On the subject of members we haven't heard from in a while, does anyone know how Mack is doing. He was a frequent contributor on this site and a wealth of knowledge. Any information would be appreciated and if anyone has contact with him, please send him my regards.
Jim Boyle (aka 1261truckie)
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