05/17/25 Brooklyn Water Rescue Box 0492/8050

DId M9 respond with FF2? Id be surpised if they did, they are supposed to be the harbor/KVK boat and without a major fire I dont think they would have sent anything other than the fast boats.
 
FFM1938 said:
Given the astern speed I wonder if they lost throttle control while maneuvering to dock and it got locked in.

If crew were up in the rigging to strike and stow sails, which would be odd other than for show in confined waterways, they most certainly had a bad go of it for sure.

Regardless, that is quite a bit of highly tensioned line and heavy timber snapping and dropping onto what I assume were crowded decks. Looks like the tug Charles McAllister was there as an escort but may have not had a line on her.

Prayers for those injured.
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I dont want to think about what the crew in the rigging was thinking realizing that the bridge was getting closer and at there level.

I was wondering the same thing if there was some kind of mechanical failure.

One of the people I follow on yt, is a tug Capt in NY Harbor, that moves bunker barges around. He does a good job explaining what happens when trying to get into or off a pier. This is just my supposition. I'm assuming the Charles McAllister was an assist tug, which basically means it was there to nudge the ship into the right direction. Sometimes there tasked to follow and sometimes there cut loose as soon as they finish whatever they were asked to do. It comes down to preference as to whether they put a line on a ship or just nudge, experience, local knowledge,current weather etc. There's really no standard so to speak. I do think the McAllister was trying to get behind her and push, but due to distance and speed lost the race.
 
Maybe I missed it was signal 10-60 transmitted? I noticed that NY Harbor passenger Ferrys were on the scene. Often these NY Harbor Ferrys are maned by off duty FDNY Marine Company and NYPD Harbor Unit member working side jobs off duty and, in these cases, can augment the on duty FDNY & NYPD members. News reports state that the tall ship lost power leading to the incident. I am remined of the tragic collision of the container ship into that Baltimore bridge, that ships also lost power, but in this case the flow of the southbound East River lead to the incident.
Also does anyone know what the U.S. Coast Guard role was in this incident?
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
 
captaindewey50267021@gm said:
Maybe I missed it was signal 10-60 transmitted? I noticed that NY Harbor passenger Ferrys were on the scene. Often these NY Harbor Ferrys are maned by off duty FDNY Marine Company and NYPD Harbor Unit member working side jobs off duty and, in these cases, can augment the on duty FDNY & NYPD members. Also does anyone know what the U.S. Coast Guard role was in this incident? Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
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I haven't seen them mentioned but they would secure the area for FD and whoever else do their work and investigate. They also control a group called the VTS or vessels tracking service which would advise ships and traffic to avoid the area. Any commercial ship moving around has to call in and out to them, and they track and keep track of everybody and everything, by radar and ais.
 
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