10/17/09 Queens Box 4455 - All Hands

catry · Oct 17, 2009

Flushing, Queens, NY, 10/17/09

Address: 140-60 Beech Ave between Kissena Blvd and Bowne St

Phone Box 4455 - Report of fire in a MD
Engs. 273, 324, 299
TL152, L167
Battalion 52

10-75- 4455 - 19:00 hours
E273: 10-75 the box! Fire on the 4th floor, 6 story MD
E274
TL138 is the FAST Truck
Battalion 50
Rescue 4
Squad 288
Division 14

7-5-4455 - 19:05 hours
Battalion 52: 4455, we have a fire on the 2nd floor of a 6 story non-fireproof 250x75. At this time we have 1 line stretched and in operation, 2nd line being stretched, trucks are opening up, searches are in progress. Fire is Doubtful, using All-Hands as they arrive.
RAC4

19:05 hours
Received calls for apartments 1B, 2B

Exposures are:
1 - street
2 - street
3 - unknown
4 - similar attached

19:08 hours - Duration 10 minutes
BC52: 4455 main body of fire has been knocked down, still Doubtful.

19:10 hours - Duration 12 minutes
BC52: 4455, fire apartment is 1B, primary in the fire apartment and the apartment above it are negative, still Doubtful.

19:16 hours - Duration 18 minutes
BC52: 4455, main body of fire has been knocked down, there is no extension in the original fire apartment. Secondaries still in progress but we're going to place this fire Probably Will Hold.

1922 24
Division 14: All-Hands Box 4455, Under Control, secondaries throughout are negative.

firebuffkevin · Oct 17, 2009

E 274 on the 10-75????? E274 should be the second due engineon that box.

efd274 · Oct 18, 2009

E274 is normally second due unless they were OOS/unavailable when the intial call went out. Amazing all these years L167 is second due truck on that box - that's quite a haul from Auburndale

catry · Oct 18, 2009

efd274 said:
E274 is normally second due unless they were OOS/unavailable when the intial call went out. Amazing all these years L167 is second due truck on that box - that's quite a haul from Auburndale

Normal assignment is L129, TL152.

efd274 · Oct 18, 2009

There was a lot of activity in the area around this time so there were some strange assignments:

First - @18:51 E274 reported a 10-18 for Box 4771 at Willets Point Blvd and 150th Street - L129 is normally second due truck on that box which may explain why they weren't assigned to Box 4455

Second - the initial assignment for Box 4455 was 2&1 with B52 immediately requesting a second truck. The archive tapes didn't stay on the box the entire time but it is possible the third engine wasn't assigned until the 10-75 call by E273 which occurred about a minute or so after the first dispatch transmission by Disp 158.

Third - around the same time Box 4519 for 18-29 123 St College Point was transmitted and B46 was assigned with a 3&2 response. B46 would normally be the 10-75 Chief on Box 4455 and that is why B50 was assigned as the 10-75 Chief

Fourth - E274 became available and was assigned on the 1075 for Box 4455.

Fifth - L167 used to be second due on Box 4455 even after L152 moved to Utopia Pkwy and the LIE in 1960. Based on what Catry is saying that appears to be changed now.

firebuffkevin · Oct 18, 2009

efd274 said:
There was a lot of activity in the area around this time so there were some strange assignments:

First - @18:51 E274 reported a 10-18 for Box 4771 at Willets Point Blvd and 150th Street - L129 is normally second due truck on that box which may explain why they weren't assigned to Box 4455

Second - the initial assignment for Box 4455 was 2&1 with B52 immediately requesting a second truck. The archive tapes didn't stay on the box the entire time but it is possible the third engine wasn't assigned until the 10-75 call by E273 which occurred about a minute or so after the first dispatch transmission by Disp 158.

Third - around the same time Box 4519 for 18-29 123 St College Point was transmitted and B46 was assigned with a 3&2 response. B46 would normally be the 10-75 Chief on Box 4455 and that is why B50 was assigned as the 10-75 Chief

Fourth - E274 became available and was assigned on the 1075 for Box 4455.

Fifth - L167 used to be second due on Box 4455 even after L152 moved to Utopia Pkwy and the LIE in 1960. Based on what Catry is saying that appears to be changed now.

It seems that a lost was going on in the Flushing, and Whitestone area all at the same time. Thanks for the great background info efd274.

TLwarrior · Oct 18, 2009

I believe L129 was relocated to L116 during this time. L116 was sent to a collapse

TLwarrior · Oct 18, 2009

Just Another company missing a first due job.

efd274 · Oct 18, 2009

Thanks - that makes a lot of sense as to why L129 was never assigned to the box

guitarman314 · Oct 18, 2009

TLwarrior said:
Just Another company missing a first due job.

Hey, this seems to be happening a lot lately