11/12/09--3583 10-75

[rdm258]

Location: 80 Van Cortlandt Park South
Extra Eng and Truck above the All Hands  0830hrs

 

[mmattyphoto]

75-3583 80 Van Cortlandt Park south,fire was on the 5th floor of an OMD. Extra Eng. & Trk req above the all hands. 1L/s and operated. maybe someone can get rundown and size up.

 

[efd274]

Mattyphoto - this is what I could get from the archive tape:

Box 3583
Address 80 Van Cortland Park South

08:38
Disp 106: Units responding on 3583 the following CIDS information is available
MD - 7story - 200x300 Class 3 - irregular Class3 - 8 wings -at Harry, Alpha, Bravo and
Charlie wings enter alley adjacent to 4002 Gouverneur - Delta and Edward wings enter 80 Van Cortland Park South - Frank George and Harry wings enter on Hillman Ave -
B27 did you receive the CIDS
B27: 10-4


First Alarm Unconfirmed 
Engines: 81 79 52
Trucks TL46 L37
BC 27

08:42
Disp transmits 10-75 for fire on the #5 floor
B15: Box 3804 (E229 at Laconia)  we don't need a 10-7 found the caller - we're using 1&1 the rest FAST

08:43
Disp: be advised your FAST truck is 52
E62: we're 10-8 and available
Disp: E62 take that in you're the Extra Engine
E62: please send us a ticket
Disp: we're working on it

10-75 assignment
Engine 48 Unconfirmed
Truck L52 FAST
Rescue 3
Squad 61
BC 19?
DC 7

08:44
Disp to L52: you're the FAST truck for a fire on the fifth floor - did you get the CIDS L52: 10-4

08:46
Disp to L32: you're a special call - you can report in on Hillman Ave

08:48
B27: we have 2L/S - one line in operation - we're using All Hands
Disp: your Extra Engine and Truck are E62 and L32 - L32 responding in on Hillman Ave
Duration 13 minutes

08:49
Disp transmits All Hands and repeats CIDS again

08:52
Duration 18 minutes - archive tape missed the report

08:59
PWH - duration 25 minutes

09:02
L56 is 10-8 acting L37

09:03
RAC 3 is 10-84 at the All Hands

09:28
B27: all secondary searches are complete and negative - we're going under control at this time - also have one 10-45 Code 4 - we have a civilian complaining of smoke inhalation
Disp: 10-4

 

[guitarman314]

  Interesting whenever I see these NW/Bx fires today with E52/L52 in on anything above a 1st Alarm. Back in the old days the 52's were "sacred cows" as were E63, L39 and of course, E70/L53. They would only respond on a 1st alarm assignment, never relocate and were always immediately covered. Now I see E52, L52 & L39 assigned on multiple alarms like the recent 5th alarmer at 204th & Bainbridge.

 

[anesti]

huh 56 relocated to 37 i dont know why it makes no sense they are barley 20 blocks apart.

 

[chiefblackcloud]

  Interesting whenever I see these NW/Bx fires today with E52/L52 in on anything above a 1st Alarm. Back in the old days the 52's were "sacred cows" as were E63, L39 and of course, E70/L53. They would only respond on a 1st alarm assignment, never relocate and were always immediately covered. Now I see E52, L52 & L39 assigned on multiple alarms like the recent 5th alarmer at 204th & Bainbridge.

Engine 68 also had only 1st alarm boxes until recently.

 

[chiefblackcloud]

huh 56 relocated to 37 i dont know why it makes no sense they are barley 20 blocks apart.

L56 to L37 makes perfect sense .

37, 46 and 32 operating at the 7-5.

56 acting 37 can cover 37's area, a piece of both 46's and 32's area as well as part of their own response area..

 

[guitarman314]

  Interesting whenever I see these NW/Bx fires today with E52/L52 in on anything above a 1st Alarm. Back in the old days the 52's were "sacred cows" as were E63, L39 and of course, E70/L53. They would only respond on a 1st alarm assignment, never relocate and were always immediately covered. Now I see E52, L52 & L39 assigned on multiple alarms like the recent 5th alarmer at 204th & Bainbridge.

  Since when, I have a stack of Bronx and Manhattan 1950 thru 1975 assignment cards with E68 on the 3rd, 4th, & 5th alarms. I also have some 1979 vintage Washington Hts. box cards that don't have E68 so I have to guess that's when they started holding them.

Engine 68 also had only 1st alarm boxes until recently.

 

[squarewheels]

hey guitarman,
could you elaborate when you say "sacred cows". i can see how the 52's were and sill are, they pmust be available to protect the hill  but E63 and L39 i wouldnt have thought. they were both single companies back then , must have been a great time in woodlawn.  is it beacuse of the area they covered without other companies too close or becasue of the strong irish clout the neighbohood use to have?  also i thought it said scared cows at first!

 

[fdce54]

I think last line of defense would describe them because they are the furthest north in the Bronx. In the case of L39, yes strong political clout kept them in Woodlawn.