2/13/2010 Queens Fourth Alarm Box 7869

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efd274

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Queens 4th Alarm Box 7869 fire in multiple stores  - About 5 minutes ago

Box Location - 37th AVE at 85 ST Jackson Heights
Address 84-09 37th Avenue

L136 FAST

Fourth Alarm transmitted at 10:20
 
Petey

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2 engines above fourth.
Shouldn't this go to fifth according to dispatch policies?
 
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HCO

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Peter -- Four additional engines results in the next higher alarm.
 
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HCO said:
Peter -- Four additional engines results in the next higher alarm.
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According to my 6th edition ops.ref. after all hands only one engine (and one ladder) may be special called.
Any further engines must be obtained by transmitting a second alarm.

I thought this would be the same in all alarm levels, so only one extra or a higher alarm for more.
 
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That chat box on " The Bravest " is getting ridiculous.  I am posting messages and I keep getting logged out due to excessive posts.
So if anyone on here knows of any additional info, ( assignments etc ) please post here as I cant get a post in the chat.
I see you're posting Robert ( rdm ), so no idea why I cant.
Nice YouTube vid of it.

Thanks,  Lewy in England.
 
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Got a rundown from exchief:  Queens,  N. Y.  02/13/10 @ 10:00

Jackson  Heights  Section



Box  7896

address:              84th  St.  @  37th  Ave.



7896  @  09:55

Engs.  307,  289,  316

Lad.  154,  T. Lad.  138

Batt.  46



?Eng.  307  to  Queens,  Urgent !  10-75  the  Box!    Fire  in  a  liquor  store?



10 ? 75 ? 7896  @  09:57

Ladder  136  is  designated  as  the  ?FAST?  Truck

Eng.  292

Rescue  Co.  #4

Squad  Co.  #288

Batt.  49

Division  14



?Eng.  307  to  Queens,  Urgent!  2nd  Alarm!    Fire  in  3  stores!?



2nd  Alarm:

2 ? 2 ? 7896  @  09:58

Engs.  325,  263,  312,  319

T. Lad.  163,    T. Lad.  117

Eng.  324  w /  Satellite  4

Batt.  45  ?Safety  Officer?

Batt.  28  ?Resource  Unit  Leader?

Rescue  Battalion  /  Safety  Battalion

Fieldcom  1  /    Tactical  Support  Unit #1

Command  Tactical  Unit

Car  4 ?henry?  Deputy  Assist.  Chief  Robert  Mayes



Fire  Building:

1  Story  Brick  100 x 50  Taxpayer

Surrounding  Properties:

Exp. #1:  Is  a  Street

Exp. #2:  Is  a  7  Story  Brick  Multiple  Dwelling

Exp. #3:  Is  a  Similar  Type  attach

Exp. #4:  Is  a  Street



@  10:05

Batt.  46:    Box  7896,  We  have  fire  in  the  rear  of  a  1  Story  Taxpayer.

We  have  2 ? lines  stretched  and  in  operation.  3rd  line  being  stretched. 

Fire?s  Doubtful.



3rd  Alarm:

3 ? 3 ? 7896  @  10:16

Engs.  262,  260,  305,  286

Lad.  140,    Lad.  116

Batt.  52

Batt.  51  ?Staging  Manager?

Batt.  43  ?Air  Re ? Con  Chief?

Mask  Service  Unit  #1

Staging  Area:    37th  Ave.  &  80th  St.



4th  Alarm:

4 ? 4 ? 7896  @  10:22

Engs.  259,  291,  273,  206

Lad.  128,      T. Lad.  124  act.  T. Lad.  163

Eng.  233 act. 262  w/  Planning  Vehicle  ( I.M.V. )

Batt.  57  ?Planning  Chief?

Car  4:    ?Chief  of  Operations?    Chief  Robert  Sweeney



@  10:37

Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  4th  Alarm,  Box  7896,  Car  4 ?henry?

Deputy  Assist.  Chief  Robert  Mayes  reports:      Heavy  Fire  conditions  in  a  1  Story  Taxpayer,

100 x 50.    Fire  thru  the  roof.    Possible  extensions  to  Exp. #2,    a  7  Story  Multiple  Dwelling.

Establishing  ( 2 )  Sectors,  one  for  the  Taxpayer,  and  one  for  Exp. #2.        Doubtful.



@  10:47

Fieldcom  1:    Box  7896,  Special  Call  an  additional  Engine  &    Truck  to  the  Staging  area.

Eng.  68 act 289    &    T. Lad.  160 act. Lad. 154



@  10:50

Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  4th  Alarm,  Box  7896,  Car  4 ?henry?

Deputy  Assist.  Chief  Robert  Mayes  reports:    Still  have  heavy  fire  conditions  with  fire  thru  the

roof.    ( 3 )  TowerLadders  in  operation.    No  extension  to  Exp. #2  at  this  time.      Doubtful.



@  11:01

Fieldcom  1:    Special  Call  an  additional  Satellite  Co.  &  report  into  the  ?Command  Post?

Eng.  72  w/  Satellite  2  s/c



@  11:43

Fieldcom  1:    Special  Call  (1)  Ladder    &    (1)  TowerLadder,  have  them  report  into  the  ?Command Post?

Ladder  129    &    TowerLadder  115  are  s/c



@  12:05

Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  4th  Alarm,  Box  7896,  Car  4,  Chief  of  Operations,  Chief  Sweeney

reports:    Heavy  fire  conditions  in  a  1  Story  Taxpayer,  with  no  extensions  to  Exp. #2  an  ?H?  type

O/M/D.    Searches  will  be  delayed  due  to  fire  conditions.    Co?s  are  making  progress.      Exterior  operations.

Fire  is  Probably  Will    Hold.



@  13:11

Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  4th  Alarm,  Box  7896,  Car  4 ?henry?

Deputy  Assist.  Chief  Robert  Mayes  reports:    ( 4 )  TowerLadders  in  operation.  Large  portion  of  the  roof

on  the  Taxpayer  has  collapse.    main  body  of  fire  knocked  down.    Still  extinguishing  pockets  of  fire.

Exterior  operations.      Exterior  Searches  only.      Fire  UnderControl.



(  Job  Duration:  3 hrs.  /  18 mins. )





 
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G'man the theory was operating today as well.  E287 was occupied somewhere - I think they're normally third due at the Box before E316 - at a minimum the 4th due Engine.

E262 only had one chauffeur and couldn't bring the Planning Vehicle.  They were told to report on the third alarm and that is why E233 brought it later.

Not often you see the Mets (E273) and the Yankees (E68 acting E289) work together at the same fire.

There were several boxes transmitted within 30 minutes before the initial Alarm on this box.  B52 got assigned to a Box in the Bay Terrace area of greater Bayside.  About five minutes later a box two blocks from B52's headquarters (Murray Street and Roosevelt Avenue) came in - E273 and L129 got assigned to another box in downtown Flushing.  B50 came into one of the Flushing boxes.

I think that also explains why E273 didn't get called until the 4th Alarm and L129 was a S/C after that
 
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In addition to the relocations noted in the Ex Chief's rundown I heard some others as well - note this is not a complete list just some additions:

B10/B45
B18/B53
E299/E305
TL158/TL162
E50/E312
L53/L116 -this is what I believe I heard - didn't know The City Island truck ever relocated -perhaps an error!
TL119/L154 - TL160 initially relocated here but was a S/C above the 4th alarm
B44/51

Also Rescue 4 went 10-8 at 11:28
 
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efd274 said:
In addition to the relocations noted in the Ex Chief's rundown I heard some others as well - note this is not a complete list just some additions:

B10/B45
B18/B53
E299/E305
TL158/TL162
E50/E312
L53/L116 -this is what I believe I heard - didn't know The City Island truck ever relocated -perhaps an error!
TL119/L154 - TL160 initially relocated here but was a S/C above the 4th alarm
B44/51

Also Rescue 4 went 10-8 at 11:28
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Also E75/273
 
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