3/22/26 Queens 2nd Alarm Crash Box 0037

DanielRJ3 said:
Is this a regular airport 2nd alarm rundown? I know nothing about the airport stuff; surely 3 Rescues and 3 Satellites (+ the Super Pumper) is extreme?
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From my understanding of it, one of the main priorities of the FDNY at an aircraft box is to be able to secure a water supply for PAPD and be able to relay it. While yes PAPD can shuttle water and foam back and forth, that's not nearly as efficient as bringing the water directly to the scene, thus the need for the Hose Wagon + 3 Satellites
 
^^^Establishing a Water Source is very important & a main function of the FDNY Response to an Aircraft incident.....Another big priority at an Aircraft incident often is access to the interior of the Fuselage for Search & Removal & or Extinguishment .......FDNY Aerial Ladders & Tower Ladders are important to have on the scene.
 
Does anyone have the run card for PAPD? It would be interesting to see their response . . . especially since they had another incident at the same time.
 
NikFDNY said:
From my understanding of it, one of the main priorities of the FDNY at an aircraft box is to be able to secure a water supply for PAPD and be able to relay it. While yes PAPD can shuttle water and foam back and forth, that's not nearly as efficient as bringing the water directly to the scene, thus the need for the Hose Wagon + 3 Satellites
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Please forgive me for asking but other than drafting are there water sources (hydrants) near the runways? Areas away from the buildings, terminals, etc.
 
Spanner said:
Please forgive me for asking but other than drafting are there water sources (hydrants) near the runways? Areas away from the buildings, terminals, etc.
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The FD Chief has to ask the PAPD IC to have their units guide FD units to hydrants to establish water supply. I would assume that there wouldnt be hydrants near the runway
 
Also the FDNY can help with hazmat litigation ( if there is fuel leaking or a hydrolic spill ) assist in conducting searches , using ladders to provide access to aircraft cabins , and assting ems in treatment of patients and to help evacuate them away from the plane to ems
 
I had the sad duty of responding, during my years in the FDNY to 3 major Air crashes. Lessons learned:
Response takes time due to getting airport Police to escort FD apparatus to the scene if the incident is on the airport taxiways or runways.
Stretching large amounts of Large Diameter Hose is often required, so call alot of help.
Hazardous Material are ALWAYS involved in any serious air crash, and sometimes the cause.
Call more help than you ever think you are going to need. = Multiple Alarms, chances are you will need them all.
Use Foam monitors/Foam lines to protect the pathway into and out of the aircraft, DOORS.
No Foam use large caliber water and handline to stream to protect the pathways & doors to and from the aircraft.
Be aware of injured people laying under any foam blanket, survivors have been run over by crash/rescue vehicles.
Keep the wind at your back, if possible, when approaching the aircraft/scene. Keep track of the direction and velocity of the wind at all times.
Consider the need to rescue victims from the water, most airports are near water.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
NikFDNY said:
The FD Chief has to ask the PAPD IC to have their units guide FD units to hydrants to establish water supply. I would assume that there wouldnt be hydrants near the runway
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There are, but there few and far in-between. At 1 point and i dont know if it's changed or not but on 269 and 37 certain units are designated as drafting companies. E331 is/was 1 on 269.
 
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