6/19/21 Brooklyn 10-75 Box 3614

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Signal73

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Fire Location: 2920 Brighton 8th St

E-245 gave the 10-75

Fire in a PD

L-153 Fast

*G-Man*
E-245,318,254,276,246s/c
L-161,169,153(Fast),166s/c,156s/c,172s/c
B-43,33,42s/c
R-5
Sq-1
D-8
RAC-5
 
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Fire in basement, but having trouble locating source. Extra E/T 246. 166.
2-story 40' x 40' PD. Initial searches were negative.
Found fire in closet on 1st. floor, made hole to basement, Water on Fire :5:25pm by B. 43.
btw: What is the siqnificance of a duration of 20mins.? Dispatch seemed to stress it.
MBFKD by 5:32pm, checking crawl spaces for any victims.
Div. 8 two additional trucks at 5:36pm----156,172.
Call Buildings Dept. for illegal apartments set up in basement----6:02pm, PWH already given. Div. 8.
 
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^^^^^^ REDDEVIL ... INCIDENT DURATION / 20 MINUTE REMINDER.
Department Order No. 45/21
2.8 COMMUNICATIONS MANUAL, CHAPTER 8
QUOTE.." Communications Manual, Chapter 8, titled Radio Communications dated July 8, 2008, is amended, as follows:
Under Section 8.9.11 Insert: The following, to read:
Regardless of prior progress reports and previous duration incident announcements, structural fire incidents at the 20-minute mark, the borough dispatcher will notify the IC, via the Department radio of the following: “The incident duration is now 20 minutes”. After the IC acknowledges, the borough dispatcher will then announce over the borough frequency the following with an alert tone once:
Alert Tone - “Units into Box XXXX, the incident duration is now 20 minutes”. The borough dispatcher will then repeat this notification over the borough frequency, preceded by an alert tone.
The Incident Commander shall acknowledge this transmission and shall subsequently announce to all operating units on the scene “The duration of this fire is now 20 minutes” on each radio channel in use at the operation.
This notification does not mandate a change in tactics or procedures if the IC does not feel a change is warranted. However, it should serve as a clear and definitive notification to all members of the length of time that units have been operating at the incident.
Affected pages 26-32 (Rev. 04/15/21) reflecting this change have been issued to all Bureaus and Divisions for equal distribution to all units under their command" UNQUOTE................This is basically a reminder for the already overburdened Incident Commander of the time passed since the initial Alarm was transmitted......considerations are burn time of the bldg's structural components & the amount of time Members are exposed ....these are just two of the initial considerations that might be overlooked until things come together at the Command level.....also the 20 minute mark is a time to possibly re evaluate the operational plan.....is it working or not ? ...is a different strategy warranted ? ..... the initial arrival period can be hectic & time can fly by ..... this 20 minute reminder may re focus the IC......also the "Incident Duration" announced after each Progress Report also puts the total time frame in perspective to consider how things are going.
 
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