8/22/2011 Queens 4th Alarm 10-66 Box#9642

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MichaelS

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112-12 Jamaica Ave.
Unknown building sizeup, was thought to be a 3 story 20x60 store/OMD, but this may be the exposure. Looking on video, appears to be a 1 story taxpayer.
10-66 Transmitted on 3rd alarm, generates the 4th alarm.

All members accounted for
 
1740hrs- 10-75 for a commercial, 112-12 Jamaica Ave.

1746hrs- B-51 transmitting 2nd Alarm, 20X60 commercial.

1750hrs- 3rd Alarm.

1756hrs- 10-66 for Mayday.
10-66: Sq-252, R-2, L-136 (SOC Support), 133 (2nd FAST), E-291 (CFR-D)

1758hrs- 4th Alarm transmitted with the 10-66.

1826hrs- Heavy fire rear and cockloft of fire building. Extension to  Exposure #4 (K/D) and some extension to Exposure #3.

1829hrs- Chief Kilduff returning SOC Logistics, SOC Compressor, E-262/Command Vehicle, Rescue 2.

1845hrs- Car 4C rpts building is a 1-story commercial 80X100. Exterior op's continue with (2) Tower Ladders and (1) multi-versal.
 
E-294 (gave 10-75),SQ-270,E-308,285, L-143,TL-142, SQ-288,R-4 BN-51,BN-50, D-13
L-126 (FAST)
2nd Alarm..E-293,305,303,298, TL-127,L125, BN-39 (RUL),BN-46 (Safety), 324/Sat 4,TAC 2,Safety BN,Rescue BN
Staging Area..111th St. & 86th Ave.
3rd Alarm..E-319,236,225,331, TL-107,TL-135, BN-52 (Staging), BN-28 (FF Chief),Mask Serv.,
10-66/4th Alarm..E-315,286,302,332,299,291 (CFRD),262 (IMO 1)L-173,155,103,136/SOC Sup,116/R Coll.,133 (2nd FAST truck),SQ-252, BN-37 (Fire location officer),BN-44 (FAST group sup.),BN-45 (Planning Section Chief),SOC Compressor,SOC Logistics,R-2,SOC Dewatering,D-14
Staging Area changed to..112th St. & Jamaica Ave.
Plus the one's I missed


112-12 Jamaica Ave.,Queens,NY - Google Maps


 
mikeindabronx said:
E-294 (gave 10-75),SQ-270,E-308,285, L-143,TL-142, SQ-288,R-4 BN-51,BN-50, D-13
L-127 (FAST)
2nd Alarm..E-293,305,303,298, TL-127,L125, BN-39 (RUL),BN-49 (Safety), 324/Sat 4
Staging Area..111th St. & 86th Ave.
3rd Alarm..E-319,236,225,331, TL-107,TL-135, BN-52 (Staging), BN-28
10-66/4th Alarm..E-315,286,302,332,299,291 (CFRD),262 (IMO 1)L-173,155,103,136,116,133 (2nd FAST truck),SQ-252, BN-37 (Fire location officer),BN-44 (FAST group officer),BN-45 (Planning Section Chief),SOC Compressor,SOC Logistics,R-2
Plus the one's I missed
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Mike -

Thanks for the rundown.
Noticed L-127 is listed twice.  Fast and 2nd Alarm.
Normally L-151 would be Fast with L-126 4th Due Ladder - No?
They did just assign L-151 as Fast Relief at 20:03. 
Any idea if they where unavailable earlier or were they relieved and now being reassigned?
 
Rundown from exchief84: Queens, N. Y. 08/22/11 @ 17:45 hrs.
Richmond Hill Section

Box 9642
address: 112 ? 12 Jamaica Ave.
between: 112th St. & 113th St.

9642 @ 17:36
Eng. 294, Sqd, 270, Eng. 308
Lad. 143, T. Lad. 142
Batt. 51

10 ? 75 ? 9642 @ 17:40
Ladder 126 is designated as the "FAST" Truck
Eng. 285
Rescue Co. #4
Squad Co. #288
Batt. 50
Division 13

2nd Alarm:
2 ? 2 ? 9642 @ 17:44
Engs. 293, 305, 303, 298
T. Lad. 127, Lad. 125
Eng. 324 w / Satellite 4
Batt. 46 "Safety Officer"
Batt. 39 "Resource Unit Leader"
Rescue Battalion / Safety Battalion
Fieldcom 1 / Tactical Support Unit #2

3rd Alarm:
3 ? 3 ? 9642 @ 17:47
Engs. 319, 236, 225, 331
T. Lad. 107, T. Lad. 135
Batt. 28
Batt. 52 "Staging Manager"
Batt. 58 "Air Re-Con Chief"
Mask Service Unit #1
Car 4 "Charlie" Chief Ronald Spadafora "Deputy Assist. Chief of Operations"

"Batt 51 to Queens, 10-66 Box 9642"

"10 ? 66 "Missing Firefighter"
Automatic next Greater Alarm

4 ? 4 ? 9642 @ 17:54
Engs. 315, 286, 302, 332, 299
Eng. 291 C.F.R.D.
Lad. 173, T. Lad. 155, Lad. 103
Lad. 116 w / Rescue Collapse 4
Lad. 132 w / Rescue Collapse 2
Lad. 136 S.O.C. Support Truck
Lad. 133 additional "FAST" Truck
Rescue Co. #2
Squad Co. #252
Eng. 262 w / I.M. Vehicle
Batt. 37 "Firefighter Location Officer"
Batt. 44 "Fast Group Officer"
Batt. 45 "Planning Chief"
Batt. 6 "Transit Liaison Officer"
Division 14 "FAST Branch Officer"
S.O.C. Compressor Unit
S.O.C. Logistics Unit
Mobile Command 1
Car 3: Chief Edward Kilduff "Chief of Department"

Fire Building:
1 Story Brick 80 x 100 Taxpayer
Surrounding Properties:
Exp. #1: Is a Street
Exp. #2: Is a Street
Exp. #3: Is a 2 ? Story Private Dwelling detach
Exp. #4: Is a 3 Story Brick Taxpayer attach

@ 18:01
Batt. 51 reports: At Box 9642, All Members are accounted for.
All members have been removed from the Fire Bldg. Going with
an exterior attack.

@ 18:23
Fieldcom 1: Progress Report for the 4th Alarm, Box 9642,
Chief of Department, Chief Kilduff is in "Command" and reports:
Heavy fire condition in the rear and Cockloft of a 1 Story Taxpayer.
Fire extended to Exp. #4 which is 112 ? 10 Jamaica Ave.
Fire is knocked down in Exp. #4. We had slight extension to Exp. #3.
We have water on the fire. All members are removed from the Fire Bldg.
We are operating in an exterior attack. Fire is Doubtful Will Hold.

@ 18:45
Fieldcom 1: Progress Report for the 4th Alarm, Box 9642, car 4 "Charlie"
Deputy Assist. Chief Spadafora reports: Fire in a 1 Story taxpayer with extensions
to Exp. #3 & Exp. #4. Primary Searches in Exp. #4 & 4A are complete and negative.
All members are removed from the Fire Bldg. In an exterior operation.
Operating with ( 2 ) TowerLadders and ( 1 ) Multi-Versal. Fire remains Doubtful Will Hold.

@ 19:07
Fieldcom 1: Progress Report for the 4th Alarm, Box 9642, car 4 "Charlie"
Deputy Assist. Chief Spadafora reports: All Secondary Searches in Exp. #4 & 4A are
complete and negative. Operating with ( 2 ) TowerLadders, ( 1 ) Multi-Versal, and
( 2 ) Hand-Lines. Fire is darkening down. Fire remains Doubtful Will Hold.

@ 19:39
Fieldcom 1: Special Call ( 2 ) additional Trucks.
Lad. 106 & Lad. 140 are s/c

@ 19:43
Fieldcom 1: Progress Report for the 4th Alarm, Box 9642, car 4 "Charlie"
Deputy Assist. Chief Spadafora reports: Co's extinguishing pockets of fire in the Cockloft.
Searches are delayed in the Fire Bldg. due to partial roof collapse. Searches in Exp. #3
and 3A are complete and negative. Fire remains Doubtful Will Hold.

@ 19:45
Fieldcom 1: Special Call ( 1 ) Engine Co. to report into the "Command Post"
Eng. 275 is assigned

( off Radio between 20:00 to 22:00 hrs. )

@ 22:43
Fieldcom 1: Progress Report for the 4th Alarm, Box 9642, car 4 "Charlie"
Deputy Assist. Chief Spadafora reports: Conditions remain unchanged.
Searches are still delayed due to total roof collapse of the Fire Bldg.
Bldg. Depts. is on scene. TowerLadders continuing to operate to extinguish remaining
pockets of fire. He place's this Fire UnderControl.

( Job Duration: 5 hrs. / 7 mins. )

 
In addition to L-151, L-120 was also called in as a relief FAST truck (relieved L-133 on exposure 3 side - 113th St.)
E-287 can be added to the list of relief engines called in prior to going U/C.
 
Several additional special calls of E/T&BNs for relief......one was BN*47 it rarely occurs that they respond off the Rockaway penninsula...BN*33 was then relocated to the 47..........another strange thing at this job was that originally the staging area was designated as 111 St & 86 Av....this is North of Jamaica Av where 111 St is only one lane in each direction ......South of Jamaica Av it is 2 lanes in each direction & much more ideal to stage apparatus......after arrival the staging BC changed it to 112 St North of Jamaica Ave which is only 1lane wide...staging areas as initially directed by the Disp sometime are off...i was Acting DC one night & had a Third Alarm  where the staging area was North of the fire on the main drag that the Fire was on but all the responding Units coming in to it were coming from the South & would have to go into small streets surrounding the Fire to get to it if i did not change it......another time i responded to a Job as the staging Chief & the original designated area was the corner directly in front of the Fire bldg.....maybe some of the Dispatchers on here can clarify how the site is picked. 
 
The criteria we have is no further than two blocks away from the incident, and not on a block that has a firehouse. Not to Monday morning QB my brethren and sisteren in Q, but I would have put it south of Jamaica on 111 because it's a wider block. There's a school, a church and a couple of nasty speed bumps on 111 north of Jamaica.
 
How well do the dispatchers know the area they are dispatching in? Do they spend time in the field getting familiar with the areas because if I'm hired off the street to dispatch and knowing Queens as well as I don't, I wouldn't know anything about the streets.
 
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