9/17/25 Brooklyn 5th Alarm Box 1387

Always lots of questions about the super pumper at every big fire. I think people need to shift their view on this, for a couple of reasons. First, the new super pumper (though it does have a large pump) would be better thought of as a foam pumper. If you're asking to see it at every large fire, you're going to be disappointed. Second, a lot has changed in terms of FDNY pumping capability since the days of the old super pumper. For starters, virtually all pumpers are now 2000GPM. On top of that, FDNY's big boats have unparalleled pumping capacity. At a big fire, if you have 25x 2000gpm pumpers, 1x 6000gpm fire boat, and 1x 50,000gpm fire boat, do you really need a 5000gpm 'super' pumper? No. Watch for it at large class b fires and not much else. My 2 cents
 
San Fransico and other large cities have high-capacity pumpers of greater than 5,000 G.P.M. FDNY is the largest and busiest fire department in North America with more major fires than a large number of other cities combined. I know the "new" Super Pumper" is designed for foam operations, but WHY? Do we need to wait for a conflagration to have the FDNY realize that we are at a disadvantage. I worked in the Satellites of the old Super Pumper System from time to time in the 1970's, so I know what the capability was. Yes, the 2,000 GPM pumpers help and so do the FDNY state of the art Fireboats, but a lot of large buildings exist in NYC not near bodies of water or even large water mains, take a look at Breezy Point during Hurricane Sandy and the other major fires and the need is self-explaining. It was a conflagration in Borough of Staten Island (then called Richmond) that caused FDNY to buy the old Super Pumper. It is time NOW, NOT after the next conflagration, to get what is required.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
 
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