9/19/09 Queens Box 4711 - 3rd Alarm

[MichaelS]

138-10 Farmers Blvd

Heavy fire in a 1 story 50x100 taxpayer with extension to 3 exposures. Exterior operations on the transmission of a 2nd alarm, heavy fire throughout & through the roof, 8 lines stretched & in operation, with 3 tower ladders operating.

All Hands @ 16:15
2nd Alarm @ 16:23
3rd Alarm @ 16:45


@ 17:24 - Car 11 reports conditions remain unchanged, 7 lines stretched & operating, 3 towerladders operating with a 4th towerladder being set up. Partial roof collapse of a rear setback, fire remains DWH.

@ 17:58 - Car 11 reports 7 lines stretched & operating, 4 towerladders operating, major collapse of the rear setback of the main fire building, continuing with exterior operations, fire remains DWH.

@ 18:31 - Car 11 reports the main body of fire has been knocked down. He would like to place this fire PWH. Will eventually go down to 3 engines, 2 towerladders & a BC, at this time Special Call 3 engines & 2 towerladders for relief.

Fire is now U/C.


Initially was a 4, 2, Rescue & Squad. CIDs for the reported address indicated a 1 story 50x100 furniture store with a heavy fire load in the basement & 1st floor.

 

[guitarman314]

Courtesy of ExChief84: Queens,  N. Y.  09/19/09  @  16:15 hrs.

Locust  Manor  Section



Box  4711

address:              138 ? 10  Farmers  Blvd.

between:            138th  Ave    &  139th  Ave.



4711  @  16:05

Engs.  311,  314,  317

T. Lad.  158,    Lad.  165

Batt.  51  s/c



10 ? 75 ? 4711  @  16:09

Ladder  133  is  designated  as  the  ?FAST?  Truck

Eng.  275

Rescue Co. #4

Squad  Co.  #270

Batt.  50

Division  13



Fire  Building:

1  Story  Brick  50 x 100  Taxpayer

Surrounding  Properties:

Exp. #1:  Is  a  Street

Exp. #2:  Is  a  Similar  Type  attach

Exp. #3:  Is  a  Rear  Yard

Exp. #4:  Is  a  Similar  Type  attach



All ? Hands:

7 ? 5 ? 4711  @  16:14

Batt.  54  reports:    Box  4711,    Using  All ? Hands.    Fire  in  a  1  Story  Taxpayer



?Division  13  to  Queens,  Transmit  a  2nd  alarm!?



2nd  Alarm:

2 ? 2 ? 4711  @  16:19

Engs.  302,  303,  308,  298

T. Lad.  155,  Lad.  126

Eng.  324  w /  Satellite  4

Batt.  54:  ?Safety  Officer?

Batt.  53:  ?Resource  Unit  Leader?

Rescue  Battalion  /  Safety  Battalion

Fieldcom  1  /  Tactical  Support  Unit #2

Car  11:    Assist.  Chief  William  Seelig



@  16:20

Batt.  51:    Box  4711,  We  are  evacuating  the  members  from  the  Bldg  and  going  to

an  exterior  attack.    We  have  3 ? lines  stretched,  2 ? in  operation.    Setting  up  the

TowerLadder.



@  16:22

Division  13:    Box  4711,  Special  Call  an  additional  Battalion  Chief  for  work.

Batt.  39  s/c



@  16:23

Division  13:    Box  4711,    We  have  heavy  fire  in  the  basement  &  1st  floor.  3 ? lines  stretched

and  in  operation.  Putting  the  TowerLadder  in  operation.    We  have  smoke  extension  to  three 

other  stores.  Going  exterior  operations.



@  16:26

Division  13:    Box  4711,  Special  call  an  additional  TowerLadder.

TowerLadder  127  is  s/c



@  16:30

Division  13:    Box  4711,  Special  Call  an  additional  Engine  to  feed  TowerLadder  127.

Engine  331  is  s/c



@  16:33

Division  13:    Box  4711,  We  have  3 ? lines  stretched  and  in  operation.    ( 2 )  TowerLadders

set  up  and  in  operation.    We  have  fire  in  the  basement  &  1st  floor  of  the  original  Fire  Bldg.

which  is  138-10  Farmers.    We  have  fire  extension  to  Exp. #4,  4a,  &  4b,  which  is  138-08,  06,  &  04

Farmers  Blvd.    We  have  heavy  fire  thru  the  roof.      Doubtful  Will  Hold.



@  16:38

Division  13:  Box  4711,    ( 2 )  TowerLadders  in  operation,    ( 8 )  Hand-lines  stretched  and  in  operation.

Fire  is  Still  Doubtful.



@  16:40

Division  13:    Box  4711,  A  roll-call  of  members  has  been  taken  and  all  members  are  accounted  for.



@  16:44

Fieldcom  1:    Box  4711,  by  orders  of  Deputy  Chief  Rupp,    Transmit  a  3rd  Alarm



3rd  Alarm:

3 ? 3 ? 4711  @  16:44

Engs.  315,  299,  293,  328

TowerLadder  162

Batt.  46

Batt.  49  ?Staging  Manager?

Batt.  33  ?Air  Re-Con  Chief?

Mask  Service  Unit  #1

Staging  Area:    Farmers  Blvd.  &  Bedell  St. 



@  17:33

Progress  report  #5  for  the  Queens,  3rd  Alarm,  Box  4711,  Car  11,  Assist.  Chief  Seelig  reports:

Conditions  remain  unchanged.    Have  ( 7 )  hand-lines  stretched  and  in  operation  at  this  time.

( 3 )  TowerLadders  set-up  and  in  operation  at  this  time.    A  4th  TowerLadder  is  being  set-up.

We  have  a  partial  roof  collapse  in  the  rear  set-back  of  the  original  Fire  Bldg.    Fire  remains

Doubtful.



@  17:56

Progress  report  #6  for  the  Queens,  3rd  Alarm,  Box  4711,  Car  11,  Assist.  Chief  Seelig  reports:

( 7 )  hand-lines  in  operation,  ( 4 )  TowerLadders  set-up  and  in  operation.    Have  a  major  collapse

of  the  rear  set-back  to  the  original  Fire  Bldg.    Continuing  with  the  exterior  operations.

Fire  remains    Doubtful.



@  18:30

Progress  report  #7  for  the  Queens,  3rd  Alarm,  Box  4711,  Car  11,  Assist.  Chief  Seelig  reports:

At  this  time,    the  main  body  of  fire  has  been  knocked  down.    Still  extinguishing  pockets  of

fire.    He  place?s  this  fire  at    Probably  Will    Hold.    Will  be  going  down  to  ( 3 )  Engs.    and

( 2 )  TowerLadders.        Special  Call  ( 3 )  Engine?s    &  ( 2 )  TowerLadders  for  ?relief  purposes?



@  18:30

Engs.  301,  305,  289    /    T. Lad.  142  &  T. Lad.  152  are  s/c  for  ?relief?



@  18:57

Progress  report  #8  for  the  Queens,  3rd  Alarm,  Box  4711,  Car  11,  Assist.  Chief  Seelig  reports:

Fire  is  UnderControl.    Primary  Searches  will  be  delayed  and  conducted  from  the  exterior 

of  the  Bldgs  due  to  stability  conditions.   



(  Job  Duration:    2 hrs.  /  52 mins. )



@  21:40 hrs.

Special  Call    ( 3 )  Engines    &    ( 2 )  TowerLadders  for  ?relief?

Engs.  258,  286,  320    /    T. Lad.  144  &  T. Lad  163  are  s/c 

 

[R1SmokeEater]

Lou Minutoli's pix are up............http://firstonscenephotos.com/FDNY/FDNYFB/9687965_X97GB#654492905_e3gS9

 

[FDNY150]

A few minutes after the 3rd was transmitted...911 comments state MC states whole block is on fire, send more fire trucks.

 

[RatPack2]

A few minutes after the 3rd was transmitted...911 comments state MC states whole block is on fire, send more fire trucks.

That's good stuff right there.

 

[efd274]

http://www.thebravest.com/FDNYNewsArchive/09/0909/25d.htm

 

[ladder197]

I saw more pictures on another smugmug site, were there two Rescues assigned??? Saw a pic of R-1's Captain at the fire.

 

[RPM3311]

I saw more pictures on another smugmug site, were there two Rescues assigned??? Saw a pic of R-1's Captain at the fire.

could you post a link to the site please?

 

[VzGuy]

http://firstonscenephotos.com/FDNY/FDNYFB/9687965_X97GB#654495413_92mKt

The first two pictures on the left top... Looks like Capt. Morris.... Maybe he was working OT ?

 

[efd274]

http://www.thebravest.com/FDNYVideos/1009/20a.htm

 

[Mr. 24/48]

Lou Minutoli's pix are up............http://firstonscenephotos.com/FDNY/FDNYFB/9687965_X97GB#654492905_e3gS9

What's with the Helmet Shied on pic #131?

 

[VzGuy]

Lou Minutoli's pix are up............http://firstonscenephotos.com/FDNY/FDNYFB/9687965_X97GB#654492905_e3gS9

What's with the Helmet Shied on pic #131?

Maybe the aid to the Rescue Battalion ?

 

[ladder197]

I saw more pictures on another smugmug site, were there two Rescues assigned??? Saw a pic of R-1's Captain at the fire.

could you post a link to the site please?

www.fredkopf.smugmug.com/south-nassau-fire-page/fdny-action

 

[rdm258]

http://nycaviation.com/forum/queens-fire-9-19-09-t17018.html
Found some additional pics from this fire.

 

[efd274]

Nice find rdm - great shots!!

 

[Petey]

Courtesy of ExChief84: Queens,  N. Y.  09/19/09  @  16:15 hrs.

4711  @  16:05

Engs.   311,  314,  317

T. Lad.  158,    Lad.  165

Batt.  51  s/c

Hi G-man,

Could you explain why B51 was special called ? I thought for such alarms a chief always is assigned.

 

[nfd2004]

Hi G-man,

Could you explain why B51 was special called ? I thought for such alarms a chief always is assigned.
[/quote]

I'm not G-man, but let me try and help out here. B51 being special called in this case probadly means that B51 is responding on the orginal box as the first due chief was out of service somewhere else. Ain't that right G-man.

 

[vbcapt]

It may have been because it's Batt. 54's area ?

 

[Petey]

OK could be.
I just thought, when needed, a unit gets assigned. When extra needed above a filled alarm the unit is special called.