Boston, MA- 4th Alarm Box 1212 09-04-12

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truck4

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Date: 09-04-12
Time: 2311hrs
Location: 26 Cooper St. X North Margin St.
Description: Fire throughout a 4-story brick OMD.

2311hrs- 2nd Alarm on Arrival. Fire showing 2nd and 3rd floors, center of the building.

2314hrs- Req. EMS with a rush for civilians down.

2316hrs- 3rd Alarm transmitted. Fire is on all floors of a 4-brick OMD.

2334hrs- 4th Alarm. Fire through the roof. Going to exterior op's.

2341hrs- Exterior operations only. Co's off the roof of the exposure building.

2353hrs- Heavy fire K/D. Exterior op's continue. Will resume interior op's shortly.
 
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North End fire:

TUE 4 GROUP      2      BOX 1221 LOCATION: HANOVER & PARMENTER STS
                              26 Cooper St 3 Story Brick Apartment Dwelling
      INCIDENT #48489          Lt McCan L-1, Lorenz D-3(Ops), Marston D-6(Rit), Feely H-1(Safety), Shaffer D-4(2nd),
                              Felton D-1(Act), Finn C-6(IC), Act Dep Brooks W-2/W-1a, Fraser C-1
2306 1st Alarm        By FA  E 8-4-50        L 1 24    R-1              D-3(Ops) C-6(IC)                         
2307 Rehab and Rit Cos By FA  E 39*          L 18 TL-3  W-25            D-6(Rit), H-1
2310 2nd Alarm        By L-1  E 10-7-3        TL-17      SU TaC W-12      D-4(2nd), D-1(Act)  A-65
2318 1 X Eng & Lad (Rit)By C-6 E 56            L 21
2316 3rd Alarm        By C-6  E 21-22        L 15                        W-2(Rehab)
2335 4th Alarm        By C-6  E 42-51                                    K-1 C-1
0111 Detail            By C-6  E 33            L 26
0149 Detail            By C-6 +E 17
0228 All Out                  IGNITION FACTOR U   
    Detail Terminated        Loss $ 1,000,000
* worked at fire
ORIGIN:1st floor front hallway stairs fully involved extended to alls floors through roof
temp +74? h/I +78?

   
Embas Fire Page
 
grumpy grizzly

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I know I have harped on this before but the xtra e/t after the second was 56/21, two companies at the extreme end of East Boston who have to respond via the tunnel. Who covers their house, Chelse, Revere, Everett, all cities with their own problems. Chelse covers with e/t, now they get a bona fide fire, where does the extra companies for supression and cover come from. Leave the Eastie companies in Eastie. Replace the truck in Charlestown that useless White shut down, I think 50 is/was a 2 bay house. Just my 2 cents worth!!
 
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Mack, 
  The box struck for this fire was Box 1212. The box you have listed above Box 1221 was for a fire in the hallway at 74 Salem St a few hours earlier. Same neighborhood though.
 
grumpy grizzly

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Just to be a pain in the butt but smoke showing in Eastie is a immediate response of E8/L1 for cover and R-1 on the fire. I just beleive this is wrong, OK fire 56/21 respond to the deuce, you have 2/1 for the district. A woman goes into labor near E-5 quarters (great food) now you have 2 and 1 for your district. Someone gets into an accident now you need an engine for medial assist. You have ONE aerial truck for all of East Boston with no engine  except for mutual aid for a complete fire district. This is BS, companies in Eastie belong in Eastie. I will listen to all Email responses, if I am wrong I will admit it on the site.GG
 
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Grump - I understand all your comments.  Coverage does seem to be illogical.
 
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Good Morning, just to throw a little fuel onto the fire. I work in Winthrop, a small town/city that boarders East Boston. I understand the concerns you have in re: to coverage into Eastie. We don't move to 56's house till the 7th alarm. This is not by our choice, but by Boston Fire's choice. Every year the Metro Fire run cards are submitted by all Departments and then approved by the chiefs. This also includes fires in Eastie itself. I have been around for a few years, (27) and know a lot of chiefs and firefighters in my area. We would have no issue going into Boston sooner not later, but that is not up to us. This is up to Boston. :)























 
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