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Bulldog said:
JohnnyBopp said:
Gimme a break....this isn't the kitchen table....we don't speak based on seniority.  If I got something to say, I'm gonna say it.
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In this case the New Chicago apparatus is striving to be safer getting to the scene as demonstrated by the lighting changes, changes that affect how they will fight fires are obviously secondary or we would be talking about them.  Maybe if you are around awhile you will realize things like this.
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The only thing that makes getting to the scene safer is a safe and conservative response.  You can load a rig up with all of the fancy bells and whistles you want, but that doesn't change a thing.  You should be stopping at every red light before proceeding and following the flow of traffic should be priority unless it's otherwise prevented.  Response times going up?  Guess we'll need more firehouses!
Lights and sirens don't equal safety.  Due regard for traffic laws and proper rig placement help increase safe operation.

Some safety inovations that would be great to hear about would be something such as a seatbelt that can actually be worn by a guy in gear with his mask on.  Jumping on and off a rig 20 times in a tour, I don't ever put it on. (Shame on me, but it's a pain)  How about tool storage and accessibility.  Any new features of the aerial device on these rigs that is safer, faster, more accurate?



No one needs to get worried about grief.  This is called spirited debate and if we keep this up, everyone learns.  I don't wanna be Mike Bloomberg, surrounded by yes men....


Stay low
 
Now that we have rectified red/blue lights on the back, and red/green on the front, well here is some more info. Ever wonder why CFD rigs are BLACK/RED. I was told that this was in difference to the buggies having leather covers, so the color was carried over to the rigs. Just here to pi## people off!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
While monitoring CFD radio traffic they questioned Squad 5 if they had been involved in an accident. They had received an automated message stating air bay de-ployment. Does this count as a safety innovation?? ;D :D
 
To bring this back on track, what is the average lifespan of a Chicago rig, not including spare/reserve time?? And, let's hope these rigs serve them well.

PS, I have said this a zillion times. I don't care what color it's painted, or how many, or what color lights they have on it. Someone will find a way to crash it, or crash into it. So Stay Safe!!!!
 
the oldest aerials are 2 1996 Seagraves, the oldest engines are 1997 KME. I cannot access my apparatus listing from my hard drive but I beleive they are accurate
 
JohnnyBopp said:
Bulldog said:
JohnnyBopp said:
Gimme a break....this isn't the kitchen table....we don't speak based on seniority.  If I got something to say, I'm gonna say it.
Click to expand...
In this case the New Chicago apparatus is striving to be safer getting to the scene as demonstrated by the lighting changes, changes that affect how they will fight fires are obviously secondary or we would be talking about them.  Maybe if you are around awhile you will realize things like this.
Click to expand...

The only thing that makes getting to the scene safer is a safe and conservative response.  You can load a rig up with all of the fancy bells and whistles you want, but that doesn't change a thing.  You should be stopping at every red light before proceeding and following the flow of traffic should be priority unless it's otherwise prevented.  Response times going up?  Guess we'll need more firehouses!
Lights and sirens don't equal safety.  Due regard for traffic laws and proper rig placement help increase safe operation.

Some safety inovations that would be great to hear about would be something such as a seatbelt that can actually be worn by a guy in gear with his mask on.  Jumping on and off a rig 20 times in a tour, I don't ever put it on. (Shame on me, but it's a pain)  How about tool storage and accessibility.  Any new features of the aerial device on these rigs that is safer, faster, more accurate?



No one needs to get worried about grief.  This is called spirited debate and if we keep this up, everyone learns.  I don't wanna be Mike Bloomberg, surrounded by yes men....


Stay low
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AMEN!!!!
Grump, I didn't know Chicago ran KME's. Do you mean those HME/Luverne rigs?? If I'm not mistaken, those Seagraves are slated to be replaced by this order. I know one of them is being used as a utility truck of some sort(Hose wagon?? Collapse rig) with the aerial removed.
 
My mistake, they are HME/Luvernes. And a 1995 Seagrave (L-26) had its aerial removed and is designated 5-2-2; but this rig will be replaced by former Tower 34 which was severely damaged in an accident. This unit carries lumber used for shoring
 
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