Chicago, IL - 4 people dead, 1 critical, in high speed 1 car crash - 6/12/14

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THURS., JUNE 12, 2014 ...0316 hours
CHICAGO FIRE DEPARTMENT
EMS PLAN 1 - MULTIPLE-INJURY (fatalities) CRASH
2650 N. NARRAGANSETT AVE.
CHICAGO, IL

E125 ON ARRIVAL REPORTS a 1 car crash into a building, heavy damage. REQUESTS A PIN-IN RESPONSE AND THEN AN EMS PLAN 1, BY ABOUT 0317 hours.

EMERGENCY VEHICLES INSTRUCTED TO ENTER at 6650 WEST DIVERSEY AND PROCEED TO THE SERVICE ROAD BEHIND "LOWES."

5 VICTIMS PINNED IN THE VEHICLE, POSSIBLY THREE OR FOUR CODE BLACK VICTIMS AT THIS TIME.

LOYOLA HOSPITAL in Maywood WAS ON ALS BYPASS, BUT TWO AMBULANCES FROM CHICAGO HAVE PERMISSION TO TRANSPORT TRAUMA VICTIMS TO LOYOLA.
4-4-11 INITIALLY REPORTED 2 CODE RED VICTIMS TRANSPORTED BY A39 AND A52. THEN REPORTED AT ABOUT 0348, ONLY ONE CODE RED VICTIM TO BE TRANSPORTED.

EMS PLAN 1 SECURED BY ORDERS OF BC8. 0354 hours

ALL VICTIMS EXTRICATED 0356 hours

ENGINE 125
TRUCK 53
SQUAD 2 /2A
Battalion 8

Assistant Deputy Chief Paramedic 4-4-11 (EMS Field Division North)
EMS Field Chief 4-5-4
ALS Amb.'s 20, 52, 39, 4, 10, BLS 83

*News reports 4 adults are deceased, 1 is in critical condition at Loyola Hospital.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-4-dead-traffic-crash-20140612,0,1029051.story

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/crash-2600-narragansett--262848361.html

**Interesting note: Seen in the news clips is a spare Squad on scene as Squad 2, that is marked as "Squad 3" for the TV show "Chicago Fire." What I cannot tell, though, is which rig it actually is. There have been 2 rigs used as "Squad 3," but to me, comparing the video to photos of both rigs, it does not look like either one of them. I was under the impression that the production company bought a Squad (from Antioch, IL) so that they did not have to use the CFD spare anymore.

Grumpy Grizzly, can you help figure out this mystery?
 
The Chicago squads are 14 years old and have seen a lot of service. The shops converted E-23 ALF for a spare assigned to SQ-1. Chicago fire used the old 5-1-1 rig and then purchased the Antioch rig which was mentioned in the previous posting. There is no filming at this time so CFD might be using the Chicago Fire rig.





 
What ever happened to the bid for new squads that Rosenbauer won? Are they still coming? Makes KME's progress on the FDNY pumpers look positively speedy!  ::)
 
raybrag, I am sorry that nobody has replied to your question. I just now realized that was the case.  :-[

Unfortunately I don't have an answer for you.  :-[
 
Went to Rosebauer home page, no info at all. City signed a contract for 25 ambulances with delivery in the 120 to 150 range. If I was writing the checks I would re-hab the 55' Snorkel units one at a time. No one else makes anything similar nowadays. Buy 3 new companion peices for the equipment. CFD could also use some new tower ladders, recently 2 of the spares went OOS and had to be replaced by RM straight sticks!
 
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Went to Rosebauer home page, no info at all. City signed a contract for 25 ambulances with delivery in the 120 to 150 range. If I was writing the checks I would re-hab the 55' Snorkel units one at a time. No one else makes anything similar nowadays. Buy 3 new companion peices for the equipment. CFD could also use some new tower ladders, recently 2 of the spares went OOS and had to be replaced by RM straight sticks!
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That Whole Proposal from Rosebauer was kind of strange if you ask me.  They were going to take the unit designed for a penetrating nozzle on CFR equipment and fit it with a bucket for use by personnel.  That sounds kind of sketchy to me if you ask.  Bronto, which I believe is now owned by federal signal, is about the only maker of any type of articulated elevating platform for the fire service that I know of.  That might be an option for Chicago to look at, here's a link: http://www.bronto.fi/sivu.aspx?taso=1&id=122
 
Maybe what I will say isn't exactly right, so if I need to be corrected by anyone, then by all means do so.

The reason for the Snorkel chase rig as the 2nd part of the Squad Companies (1A, 2A, 5A ...7A is not a Snorkel) is because it's smaller, and thus fits into smaller/tighter spaces where a straight-stick or tower ladder will not...whether that means narrow streets or in between buildings.

I'm not so sure a Bronto is really the best replacement for the Snorkel. But it might be.
 
CFD is really happy with those 55' units, you can put them between a rock and a hard place! Look at pixs of them at work, tight quarters in residential areas. lThere was a pix on facebook of an enormous Bronto FF rig with dual axles front and rear. Defenite overkill!
 
Just curious: Would the F.D.N.Y. benefit greatly by having Chicago-style Snorkel's in their fleet, or not?

Would a 2nd rig even fit in all of the Squad Company firehouses, or not? Or might it have to go elsewhere?

And I would only assume, hypothetically speaking, that on Staten Island a Snorkel would just go into maybe a centrally located firehouse, since there is no Squad Co. currently on S. I. ...maybe E154 or E165?

 
Rosenbauer has defaulted on the contract with the city. Smeal brought the rights from ALF several months ago for the snorkel, plans are to make something available on a Spartan chassis.
 
To answer CTFB 543. Over the years fire departments and cities have evolved into what works best for them. LA City and County are pretty knowledgeable in brush fire incidents. FDNY has taken the tower ladder and has perfected its use to a science. Boston has always been known for its aerial work, just like Chicago was known for its use of snorkels. And this is how they are taught at the academy. In my humble, and probably wrong, opinion FDNY  would not give much thought to a snorkel, they already have what they really like. The thought of one on SI, why there?
 
In the never-ending search for ' truth, justice, and the American way' here are some more bones to gnaw on. Squad 7 @ O'Hare is pernamentally OOS, the rig that is. Seems like it has a crack/twisted frame. They are not that busy out there so how it happened is a mystery. It gets better though, it will be replaced by the rig from Chicago Fire, a used one purchased from Antioch that is a little long in the tooth.
 
grumpy grizzly said:
In the never-ending search for ' truth, justice, and the American way' here are some more bones to gnaw on. Squad 7 @ O'Hare is pernamentally OOS, the rig that is. Seems like it has a crack/twisted frame. They are not that busy out there so how it happened is a mystery. It gets better though, it will be replaced by the rig from Chicago Fire, a used one purchased from Antioch that is a little long in the tooth.
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The only possible thing I could think of offhand would be that the frame damage was caused when they went off road.  Many times airport based fire equipment travel off-road, is much more common than for standard units.  A unit like the squads which are not specifically designed for anything but street use would be much more susceptible to damage in these situations.

Does anybody have any further information and possibly pictures of the unit they will be getting a replacement?
 
Think ChiFire might have a pix of it, is a 20+ year old rig purchased from Antioch after they got a new one recently. Pretty said when you have to use a rig purchased by a movie company for your front-line rig at one of the world's busiest airports. They have used 5 different spares for the 2 piece company. And there is nothing in the pipeline, Sq-7 is out for evaluation but I heard it is 'FUBAR'.
 
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