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This is an OFFICAL Report on the most recent FDNY Fire Apparatus News, which I received from a friend.

PUMPERS:
Eng 161, Eng 321, Eng 273, Eng 1, and Eng 265 - have received new 2023 Seagrave Pumpers
Eng 15, Eng 9, and Eng 72 - will receive new 2023 Seagrave Pumpers shortly
41 Additional Seagrave Pumpers are on order

8 Rescue-Pumpers for the Squad Co's are on order from Seagrave

7 High Pressure Pumpers are on order from Seagrave

LADDER TRUCKS:
Tower Ladder 86 and Tower Ladder 87 have or will receive shortly - 75' Seagrave Tower Ladders
Ladder 42 received a new 2023 Seagrave rear mount

11 - 100 ft Tillers are slated to start delivery from Seagrave
Ladder 169 will get the first one, loosing their rear mount rig

Purchase Orders from Seagrave
48 - rear mounts
17 - 75 foot tower ladders
13 - 95 foot tower ladders

Expected Delivery Time For A New Rig Is - 3 Years, due to supply chain and manpower issues
 
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nfd2004 said:
This is an OFFICAL Report on the most recent FDNY Fire Apparatus News, which I received from a friend.

PUMPERS:
Eng 161, Eng 321, Eng 273, Eng 1, and Eng 265 - have received new 2023 Seagrave Pumpers
Eng 15, Eng 9, and Eng 72 - will receive new 2023 Seagrave Pumpers shortly
41 Additional Seagrave Pumpers are on order

8 Rescue-Pumpers for the Squad Co's are on order from Seagrave

7 High Pressure Pumpers are on order from Seagrave

LADDER TRUCKS:
Tower Ladder 86 and Tower Ladder 87 have or will receive shortly - 75' Seagrave Tower Ladders
Ladder 42 received a new 2023 Seagrave rear mount

11 - 100 ft Tillers are slated to start delivery from Seagrave
Ladder 169 will get the first one, loosing their rear mount rig

Purchase Orders from Seagrave
48 - rear mounts
17 - 75 foot tower ladders
13 - 95 foot tower ladders

Expected Delivery Time For A New Rig Is - 3 Years, due to supply chain and manpower issues
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Engine 9 has a 2016 KME they're getting a New Rig?
 
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Does this mean the FDNY will now have a 14th TDA? Because 169 is losing there RMA? Or are there still even 13 left, using info from a 2017 Times Article.
 
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What is the difference between a high pressure pumper and the standard 2,000 gpm pumpers ?
 
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jlab said:
What is the difference between a high pressure pumper and the standard 2,000 gpm pumpers ?
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Someone will correct me if I am off on any of this, but: FDNY has five general types of engines currently in circulation:
1) Some 1000gpm units, which are spares
2) Some 1000gpm units (with rescue-engine style bodies) assigned to the eight squad companies.
3) The current conventional engine assigned to front line companies is 2000gpm with a two-stage 600psi pump.
4) Among these, some are designated high pressure pumpers, which means they get assigned special equipment to pump at high pressures.
5) A select few engines are three-stage pumpers, which are also 2000gpm but can get to 700psi.

There are eight three-stage pumpers (mostly in Manhattan) and an additional 29 high pressure pumpers. The remainder of FDNY's engine fleet is the standard 2000gpm unit (or the 1000gpm unit for squads/spares). All engines have 500 gallon tanks. Also worth noting volume (gpm) and pressure (psi) aren't the same thing.

Sources: FDNY engine operations manual and the FAQ section of this site.
 
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High pressure engines are 3 stage pumpers instead of the normal 2 stage. They also carry special hose for supplying standpipes in high rises
 
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BCR said:
High pressure engines are 3 stage pumpers instead of the normal 2 stage. They also carry special hose for supplying standpipes in high rises
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Per the operations manual, not all high pressure pumpers are three stage. Different categories. All three stage are high pressure, but not all high pressure are three stage.
 
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all of the fdny 2000gpm engines are at least a 2 stage pump all can technically operate up to 600PSI but don't due to safety issues since you need special high pressure hose and discharges . many engines in high-rise areas have a standard 2000gpm/600psi engine with a high pressure hose and discharge (that is a heaver duty discharge then the standard ones) is put on one of the regular discharges , the high pressure engines 6,8,10,26,34,39,54,65,226,258 have a 3 stage 2000gpm/700psi pump , the high pressure hose and dedicated high pressure only discharges on the rear
 
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airbusboeing said:
all of the fdny 2000gpm engines are at least a 2 stage pump all can technically operate up to 600PSI but don't due to safety issues since you need special high pressure hose and discharges . many engines in high-rise areas have a standard 2000gpm/600psi engine with a high pressure hose and discharge (that is a heaver duty discharge then the standard ones) is put on one of the regular discharges , the high pressure engines 6,8,10,26,34,39,54,65,226,258 have a 3 stage 2000gpm/700psi pump , the high pressure hose and dedicated high pressure only discharges on the rear
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The red hose with the white couplings. You see them on some high rise/ mega high rise” fires in Manhattan
 
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Correct. All engines no matter what type can pump up to 300psi using the 3 1/2 anything above that needs approval from the Ic (bc or above ) and needs to use the red 3 inch high pressure hose and a saftey zone around the pumper and the hose is established
 
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Probably the wrong thread, but was one of the ladders that responded to the Bronx fire last night was in a spare. Anyone know what company it was? I believe the spare is a 2001 Seagrave.
 
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Darrell said:
Probably the wrong thread, but was one of the ladders that responded to the Bronx fire last night was in a spare. Anyone know what company it was? I believe the spare is a 2001 Seagrave.
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Ladder 59 & 29 are in spares
 
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