London, England- Riots 08-06-11

grumpy grizzly

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I was under the impression London Police officers were not armed. To all perps here is a thought, screw with the man and it might cost you. BAD BOYS BAD BOYS WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WHEN WE COME FOR YOU BAD BOYS BAD BOYS
 
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London police officers do not openly carry guns and are not routinely armed. Only specialist armed response units and anti-terrorist officers are allowed to carry loaded firearms.

For this man to have been shot dead, there would have been intelligence that he was either armed and dangerous or was an immediate terrorist threat. Until the investigation is complete we will not know which it is.
 
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Not knowing the full circumstances of the shooting, but 2 offenders were involved I believe.  2 shots have been reported to have been fired by police.  After the shooting, a police officer discovered a bullet lodged in his radio, not having come from police, but the offenders and a firearm was recovered at the scene.

Yet, it looks as though Joe Public see this as police brutality and the riot eventually kicked off. Some reports of more disorder occurring at the moment not far from this area, but no confirmation as yet if connected to this or not.
 
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If anyone threatens ANY Police Officer in ANY fasion with harm or death you deserve to be well ventilated
 
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From what was reported of the shooting on Thursday "the perp" was being followed by the Mets Armed Police (CO 19). When they went in for the arrest its reported "the perp" opened fire shooting a Police officer. The perp was the shot and killed despite the efforts of the Police to save his life

Public relations in the Tottenham area between Police & locals are not that great. There was a riot back in the 80's (85/86 i think) same kinda thing large scale disorder and relations haven't improved since.

It should also be siad that the riot last night had notting what so ever to do with a guy being shot by Police. He was shot on Thursday. Alot of the 300 or so rioters are belived to have traveled to Tottenham from surrounding areas in London. Last night riot was just an excuse for people to attack Police officers and to loot retail shops
 
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Update tonight so far as of 22:30hrs uk time

22:30 North london:

Met Police responding to disturbances in Enfield, North London. 1 car, 1 van set on fire and shops being looted and attacked. 1 Police Car also attacked

23:00 West London:

Groups of masked youths throwing stones at cars and Westfield shopping Centre in West London

11:00 Monday

There were reports of trouble in a number of boroughs throughout the night  including Enfield, Brixton, Islington, Turnpike Lane, Walthamstow, Chingford and Leyton where shops were vandalised and broken into.

Large amount of Police Officers deployed to the streets of London tonight including Officers from outside London including Kent.

It should also be noted that the family of the man shot by Police on Thursday have condemned last nights violence
 
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Dexter01 said:
Not knowing the full circumstances of the shooting, but 2 offenders were involved I believe.  2 shots have been reported to have been fired by police.  After the shooting, a police officer discovered a bullet lodged in his radio, not having come from police, but the offenders and a firearm was recovered at the scene.
Yet, it looks as though Joe Public see this as police brutality and the riot eventually kicked off. Some reports of more disorder occurring at the moment not far from this area, but no confirmation as yet if connected to this or not.
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The Guardian Newspaper are reporting that the ballistic test on the bullet recovered from the radio of the Police Officer confirm the bullet is a police issue bullet
 
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17:20 uk time:

Violence breaks out on the streets of London for a third day with skirmishes between youths and police in Hackney. Also yesterday 3 non fatal stabbings in Lambert where a Police Officer was left with knife wounds to his face

17:49 uk time:

Police coming under attack in Lewisham town centre, London

Live video feed:

http://news.sky.com/home/

 
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IRISH said:
Dexter01 said:
Not knowing the full circumstances of the shooting, but 2 offenders were involved I believe.  2 shots have been reported to have been fired by police.  After the shooting, a police officer discovered a bullet lodged in his radio, not having come from police, but the offenders and a firearm was recovered at the scene.
Yet, it looks as though Joe Public see this as police brutality and the riot eventually kicked off. Some reports of more disorder occurring at the moment not far from this area, but no confirmation as yet if connected to this or not.
Click to expand...

The Guardian Newspaper are reporting that the ballistic test on the bullet recovered from the radio of the Police Officer confirm the bullet is a police issue bullet
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That came out not long after I posted Irish.  Still, you know as well as I do, the police over here do not shoot many and only do so under the very serious threat from offenders. 

As you say, the famly have condemned the violence.  Watching it on news at the moment and it's going crazy out there.  Police being stretched by the complete randomness of where the next part is going to kick off.
 
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Its changing by the minute Dexter. Sporadic all over London now by the looks of it and spreading to Birmingham now aswell. The events of Thursday night as we know are still being investigated. This guy was being followed by CO19 so he was no ordinary jo-soap. But as you and i know and ive said already whats happening in London now has nothing got to do with the shooting on Thursday its scumbags with nothing better to do then attack Police Officers and public buildings
 
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Yes these are gangs of youths who are organising themselves through Blackberry messaging, which is a private messaging service. They have nothing to do with the tension in the Tottenham area on Saturday night and have just used this as an excuse to cause trouble. The Prime Minister David Cameron is returning home from his summer vacation, as is the Mayor Boris Johnson. My belief is that there will be curfews imposed and the military will be called in to assist policing the streets.
 
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"The Prime Minister David Cameron is returning home from his summer vacation, as is the Mayor Boris Johnson" - 3 days too late. You have to remember London at the moment Has NO Prime Minster, NO Mayor due to being on Holidays NO Police Commissioner or Depty Commissioner the current Met police Commissioner is an acting one.

12 Police Forces from neighbouring forces in London are sending relief Police Officers in to Help the Met including British Transport Police, City of London, Thames Valley and Kent to name a few. But they WILL NOT deploy the military you can be sure of that
 
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** UPDATED ** as of 01:50 Tuesday Morning

Ongoing Incidents in the following areas of London:

Croydon, Hackney, Lewisham, Enfield, Ealing, Camden, Ilford, Peckham, Clapham, Woolwich, Colliers Wood, Brixton, Catford & East Dulwich

JUST NOTE: All these areas have multiple incidents ongoing in the areas including many major fires in commercial premises, car fires, looting, homes being broken into with residents inside.

Hundreds of Londoners told to evacuate homes due to building fires

A Man was shot in Croydon - Not Fatal (Died in Hospital Tuesday afternoon)

1,700 extra Police Officers on the Streets of London

London Fire Brigade responding to Multiple incidents all over London. Many building are being left to burn as Police cannot secure the areas for Firefighters. Firefighters only responding to incidents under Police Security

Police in Birmingham arrest 100 people in city centre after shops are robbed & burnt out. Unmanned Police Station also set on fire

Merseyside Police in Liverpool are dealing with multiple incidents

Minor copycat disturbances in Wolverhampton and Walsall

Number of incidents in Bristol City Centre being dealt with by Police. Police asking People not to travel to Bristol City Centre

Sainsburys Depot in Essex set alight at around 02:00

02:45

Met Police confirm they are using armored vehicles to control rioters

London Fire Brigade say they are running out of Fire Appliances in the city due to the number in incidents they are currently attending

(London Fire Brigae has approximately 170 pumps (Engs), 16 Ladders, 16 Rescues and an arragne of other Incident response vehicles in operation across the city).

Live News Coverage:

http://news.sky.com/home/


 
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The 26yr old man shot in Croydon last night died today in hospital. Also breaking news just now a man in his 60's is critical in hospital after clashing with rioters last night in Ealing last night.

Photos also coming out today of people having to jump from burning buildings last night from 1st & 2nd floors into the arms of riot officers.

Police received 21,000 calls last night and 44 Police Officers were injured. Every Police cell in London early today was full with over 400 arrests over the 3 days. Police are currently moving prisoners to Police stations outside the capital

16,000 Police Officers will be on the streets of London tonight
 
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Not good at all irish. Kicking off in Wolverhampton as we type.  Again in Croydon too.  Watching news for most of last night and it's just shocking.  Just degenerates now.

Although, on news from IPCC, man did NOT shoot at police at all.  Does not vindicate it at all, but will add massive fuel to the fire already burning. 

Kicked off in my home town last night as well.  Nothing like London or Birmingham, but still not good.  Various chatter around I'm seeing of places where it's going to occur.  Police may well have authorisation for batton rounds and rubber bullets tonight though, which should hopefully help immensely.  Give them the tools and it will stop very quickly.

Caught May's speech this morning and she is living in a complete different world at the moment!!
 
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Seems nowhere in the UK is safe. As for batton rounds & water cannon i cant see them working. They dont work in Northern Ireland. Plus the only place in the UK with Water Cannon is Northern Ireland so it will take a while to get them there.

I think you just have to flood he cities with Police Officers they will bing it under control
 
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