Squad 18

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Was reading faj the other day. Was stating that squad 18 had its body taken off the wrecked chassie and placed on the cab and chassie of engine 212 old 2002 engine. Does any one know if squad 18 has thier refufbed rig yet?
 
i saw squad 18 running with a "new" rig not the spare squad on saturday so im assuming its the rig FAJ is talking about.
 
The retrofitted 2002 Seagrave SP02013, with the rescue pumper body of the 2001 Seagrave SP01005, went into service as Squad 18 on August 21, 2009.  It is now carried as SP 02013.
 
Thats good to see that they have thier front line piece back in service and not a beat up old spare.
 
Shops project -Fleet Services removed the rescue pumper body and mounted it on the chassis of a 2002 Seagrave 1000 gpm pumper originally assigned to Engine 212 which was disbanded in 2003. They had to lengthen the wheel base by just over 16 inches. The cab and chassis of the damaged squad had been damaged beyond economical repair
 
Kudos to the masters at the FDNY shops for another job well done.  They are never appreciated enough.
 
That is just amazing. The shops always inpresses me with what they can do.
 
I believe this is a picture of the rebuild: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom_hoboken/3906916048/
 
catry said:
I believe this is a picture of the rebuild: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom_hoboken/3906916048/
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Doubt it, I took this pic before the crash and both trucks look exactly the same. I can't tell the difference. Maybe someone else can see any differences
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11766954@N06/3902230904/
 
HAZ-MAT1 said:
catry said:
I believe this is a picture of the rebuild: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom_hoboken/3906916048/
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Doubt it, I took this pic before the crash and both trucks look exactly the same. I can't tell the difference. Maybe someone else can see any differences
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11766954@N06/3902230904/
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The picture that catry posted the link for, the Squad has diamond plate behind the door, the original Squad that Haz-Mat posted does not have diamond plate behind the door.
 
Yep you are correct. Also looking close the www.nyc.gov is on the white strip behind the front door in that pic and on my pic it is in the yellow stripe. They did a good job, almost unnoticable at a quick glance. Matter of fact I took this pic last October after that fire on Fulton House where they had 5 10-45's code 1. They were at 33/9 picking up some more bag valve masks to replace the ones they used at that fire
 
The pic catry posted is that of SP02013, if you download the pic and zoom in you can just make out the number just before the pixels break up.
 
efd274 said:
Shops project -Fleet Services removed the rescue pumper body...
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Not being afraid to expose my iggerance...  What the $#%^# is a "rescue pumper"? 

(This from someone who remembers riding the back step of Ward-LaFrance CD rigs...which were kind 'a basic fire engines!).
 
"bklyndisp54", from one old guy to another. (I remember those Ward LaFrance -CD rigs too). I first heard of a Rescue Pumper about ten years ago when the Dept I was on, closed down our Rescue Co. We were also in need of buying another Engine, so what they did was buy a "Rescue Pumper". It was a fire truck with a few extra bunker boxes to house a Hurst tool and Air Bags.
  I guess the closet comparison of one in the FDNY is the Squad Cos. Back when I was a younger guy, Bridgeport, Ct ran a "Rescue Pumper" for years. It still does. Way back then in the 1950's it just "wasn't" called a "Rescue Pumper". It was just called Squad 5.
 
Calling it a pumper with a few extra bunker boxes is certainly an understatement.  Most rescue pumpers have considerably more storage space than a traditional engine.  It may be in the form of additional boxes on top, high side compartments on both sides, under frame compartments, etc.  Most of them also carry considerably more additional equipment than a Hurst tool and air bags.  Some of them, like the squads in New York for example, carry almost as much equipment and many rescue companies do.  Also if a point of reference in most cases a Rescue Pumper is normally considered the type of equipment and a Squad is the name of the unit that utilizes one.
 
I wonder how the shops were able to extend the wheelbase 16". Frame modification or extension? just curious.
 
Rescue Pumper from my home town.  http://www.coloniafd.org/Apparatus_files/12-1.jpg
 
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