TCU 712

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May I please see an image of TCU 712 and Engine 85 when it was red.
 
Please fill me in on the rig....I notice seats on the side......how many members were assigned and what who was the manufacturer?????
 
Oh by the way, may I please see a photo of TCU 712 when it was a Seagrave?
 
The rig was one of the original High Ladders, a 144' Magirus ladder. The ladder was removed and a Grove ladder was installed which is the one in the picture.
 
The manning for the TCU's was 1 Officer and 7 fr. for the trucks of which 2 Fr. were assigned as above fire team. The engines had 1 officer and 6 fr. They worked a 2 platoon system where 1 platoon was on duty for 3 night in a row.  All members were volunteers with the option to drop out at anytime. After a while it was realized that the 3 night of heavy fire duty and running was to much on the human body. When members asked out, they were told to get a replacement.  Finally Fr. Tony Palmer was leader in a law suit to get out of the TCU. This was the demise of the TCU.
  The TCU operated during the adapt reponsed period which was from 1500 hrs to 24 hrs. In the Bronx the AR area was basically the 6th Division. The signal 2-1 followed by box number was sent out for street boxes. This signal was that 2 engines and 1 truck was sent if available. If upon arrival a building fire was reported,the 1st company on the scene was to request a full assignment. The reason for the heavy manning was so the truck as able to operate safely on fire floor, while sending 2 fr. to fl. above to search for life and fire extension.  This period happen a long time ago so please  feel free correct me if memory is not the greatest.
 
"JBendick" that is some excellent information. I remember the TCUs but never knew why they ended. I figured budget crisis. So the guys would work three nights followed by three nights off from 3 PM to 12 midnight. As I remember there was TCU 712 and 732 correct. Then there was TCUs 512 and 532 correct. And the 500s were engines (???).
 
I beleive there was also TCU E-531 which worked out of the quarters of E-332. The rotation was set up as follows, The first night E 332 was by themselfs. The second night the TCU was there and was always the front engine to respond. On the third night my house E 319 interchanged with E 332. This rotated the same way until the TCU's were dispanded. Afterwards E-319 contuined to interchange every third night with E-332, until E 332 went on the points system which had E 319 interchanging with E 332 everyother night it seemed.
 
jbendick said:
The manning for the TCU's was 1 Officer and 7 fr. for the trucks of which 2 Fr. were assigned as above fire team. The engines had 1 officer and 6 fr. They worked a 2 platoon system where 1 platoon was on duty for 3 night in a row.  All members were volunteers with the option to drop out at anytime. After a while it was realized that the 3 night of heavy fire duty and running was to much on the human body. When members asked out, they were told to get a replacement.  Finally Fr. Tony Palmer was leader in a law suit to get out of the TCU. This was the demise of the TCU.
  The TCU operated during the adapt reponse period which was from 1500 hrs to 24 hrs. In the Bronx the AR area was basically the 6th Division. The signal 2-1 followed by box number was sent out for street boxes. This signal was that 2 engines and 1 truck was sent if available. If upon arrival a building fire was reported,the 1st company on the scene was to request a full assignment. The reason for the heavy manning was so the truck as able to operate safely on fire floor, while sending 2 fr. to fl. above to search for life and fire extension.  This period happen a long time ago so please  feel free correct me if memory is not the greatest.
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bendick.  I remember "Adaptive Response" in Brooklyn I don't think the 2-1 preceded the Box Number but the 444-21 and 222-21 was transmitted at the start and end of AR time (or TCU hours).  Not only were the TCU trucks manned with 1 and 7, so were selected trucks in busy areas.  Dispatchers had specially marked AR assignment cards with an "X" line above the first alarm, this would show the normal 1st and 2nd due engines, as well as the one AR truck.  These were announced on Radio as a "2-1 Signal, Box nnnn" and I think it may have applied to pulled boxes only not phone alarms. The AR trucks were manned for the 2&1 boxes, and now I'm even unsure if the TCU trucks were part of it.  Brooklyn had TCU 731 which ran out of L102 and TCU 732 out of E277, then E232. 731 had a former Mack C model former High Ladder fitted with a 100' Grove aerial; 732 had the unique ALF rear mount. Like you say it was many years ago and we both may be a little hazy on specifics.
 
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