Brooklyn 5th alarm Commercial Fire 3/11/26 Box 2671

To think, not that long ago, Marine 8 probably would have been Exposure #4 on 52nd St.
Strange to see 3 engines and 2 trucks s/c from S.I.
 
Very rough numbers here (+/-):
37 engines (including Comm eng, Haz-Tech eng)
30 ladders
1 Rescue
1 Squad
4 RACs
3 Marine
23 Battalions (including HM, SB, RB, MB)
1 Division
2 TSUs
SOC (Dewatering, Logistics, Compressor)
1 CT
1 Field Comm
1 Haz-Mat
1 MCC
1 MSU
4 Staff Chiefs

I figured staffing at minimum levels. I get approximately 475 personnel on scene. When adding in the other support units (Medical, Fleet Services, etc), plus any additional such as a 5FF engines, I am guessing closing in on 500 total (not including EMS).
 
Last edited:
Were any of the satellite units actually running their deck guns or were they just running LDH and manifolds?

Side question, if a marine unit is supplying ladders/engines, do the companies flush out the rigs at the end of the job to get the salt water out of the pumps and internals?
 
FFM1938 said:
Were any of the satellite units actually running their deck guns or were they just running LDH and manifolds?

Side question, if a marine unit is supplying ladders/engines, do the companies flush out the rigs at the end of the job to get the salt water out of the pumps and internals?
Click to expand...
For LDH and they are supposed to.
 
I have said this before I don't feel the "New" Super Pumper 1" is useless if it is kept for Foam Operations only. What has to happen Firewise before it is used? I worked in the "Old Mack Super Pumper System" from time to time and know what it could do. If the brass in the FDNY want more information take out some old W.N.Y.F. Magazines from the 1970s & 1980s and see what the capabilities of a properly utilized "Super Pumper" are in terms of control of major fires. At This 5th alarm 2 Fireboats each capable of 30,000 GPM each plus Hydrants = Plenty of Water, yet no way to place a Very Large Caliber Stream into operation on the LAND side of the fire. Chicago had and has "Deluge Units" mounted on rigs capable of getting into position to attack major fires. Chicago fights more serious fires than FDNY does, look it up. Maybe then have of point with CFDs Monitor/deluge units, that FDNY is missing. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
 
I don't understand the fierce resistance to this seemingly new policy of SI units relocating to or responding in to Brooklyn. By my count, there were 5 SI companies engaged this morning: E160, E155, E165, L77, and L80 (not counting relief later). In all five cases, those units are in quarters with another unit (R5, L78, L85, E153, E157 respectively), so there were no SI firehouses without coverage. I understand that SI is a unique part of the city and it can be difficult to maintain coverage, but none of the units that went to Brooklyn came from remote parts of SI - all five of these companies come from northern SI where other units are very close. Further, most of the SI units engaged are in slow areas by FDNY standards and were sent into the job or in to cover areas much busier. If one is concerned with overall unit availability on SI, this incident engaged 5 out of 31 companies on SI, or 16 percent, suggesting 84 percent unit availability on SI. I suspect unit availability in Brooklyn during this incident was much lower than 84 percent. I get that moving units off SI should be done carefully, but I think those who feel that units should never leave SI are off base - how would that be fair to people in other parts of the city who would have to suffer from diminished fire coverage or response from a policy where all SI units are off limits?
 
wonder what the greatest alarm would’ve been if stopped at a 5th & special called the heck out of it?
 
EMS Information - MCI 22 - Box 3999/2671 - CAD 0092

1223 XR2 - A 10-75 is going to be coming over, can you assign me please.

1223 CW1 - Attention all citywide resources, Report of a Fire being transmitted in Brooklyn, off First Avenue, Box 3999, CAD 0092.

1224 LS4 - 63

1224 581 - Show me 63

1224 LS5 - Do you show me going to the MCI in Brooklyn?

1224 CW1/LS5 - 4 Picked it up, ill put you on it thats fine.

1224 CW1/LS4 - 87

1225 LS8 - LS8 is in Brooklyn, show me 63.

1225 CW1/LS5 - Take the 87

1226 40C - Setting up on First Avenue between 54 and 53 Street, Best Access is First Avenue either direction.

1227 40W - 1-2 Minute ETA

1229 CW1/C40 - Going to be known as Medical Branch 3999, Fire is transmitting a Second Alarm, ill get you your resources.

1230 CW1 - Attention all citywide resources, now a Second Alarm.

1234 581 - Show us involved in a MVA on 60th and 5th Avenue. No Injuries to MOS.

1237 512- On your Screen heading to that Second Alarm.

1237 ME5 - 63 for the Second Alarm.

1238 C40 - Building Collapse, start me out an additional ALS, BLS, no reports of members in the building, unknown on Civilians, no injuries at this time, Potential is High.

1241 CW1/HT2 - There was a Partial Building Collapse.

1241 CW1 - Attention all units on the wales? assignment, it is now a Third Alarm.

1248 CW1 - Attention all units, now a Fourth Alarm.

1255 HT2 - Assign me a second rescue for this. (XR5)

1256 HT1 - Show me 63 aswell.

1256 XR5 - You can put us on that.

1256 CW1/HT2 - You got XR5 coming.

0103 CW1/C40 - You have H51 Trauma, H94, H53 Pediatric all Notified.

0104 C40 - Operations are continuing, more of this building has collapsed, potential will remain high to emergency service, no patients at this time, potential for civilians will stay low, Staging will move 54 Street and 1st Avenue, either way up or down on 1st Avenue. C43 will be Staging.

0110 512 - Assuming Control of Medical Branch 2761, Heavy Fire Condition in a Warehouse, Multiple Collapses throughout, hold with the Fourth Alarm Complement, Patient Count is Zero, Potential is high to PSP, Going to enacting a 52nd Street Location for Staging for the Exposure 3, run by C46, will advise the BLS and ALS.

0113 5G - Show me 84 at the Fourth Alarm.

0117 HT1 - Show me 84

0118 CW1/512 - Fire has announced a Fifth Alarm, advise if you want that complement.

0118 512 - Going to maintain a Fourth Alarm Complement.

0123 5D - Show me 63

0125 512 - 5L Division Chief will be taking control of Medical Branch, Operations remain ongoing, Heavy Fire Presence, Potential will be High to PSP, Low to Civilians, No Patients to Report,

0127 512 - Set up a 52nd Street Rescue Group with HT1 and XR5, as well as a Rescue Group on Exposure 1 on 54 with XR2 and HT2.

0136 5 - Show me 63 to the Fifth Alarm no MDT.

0137 512 - Fire Operations continue to ramp up, Potential is still High, Currently have exterior attack by fire with Marine Operations. 5G Assumed Medical Branch.

0142 5M12 - 84 at the Fifth Alarm.

0209 CW1/5 - Staging Location on 54 St and 1st Ave, Second Staging on 52 and 1st Ave.

0209 5 - 10-4, show me 84.

0220 512 - Operations remain ongoing, started to deescalate slightly, potential remains high, patient count has risen to (2) Green Tag Firefighters, currently being moved from the Command Post up to the Treatment Area for transport to local hospitals.

0238 512 - Operations ongoing, Potential remains high, total patient count remains at (2) Green Tag MOS being transported to H51 by 41A

0247 512 - Requesting (1) BLS and (1) ALS for relief of 40C and 40Y

0256 512 - Have (41K & 42W) them make contact with the staging officer.

0329 40C - Show me 98.

0330 40Y - Released by Medical Branch.

0331 512 - Operations remain ongoing, Patient Count remains at (2).

0352 512 - Fire Operations remain ongoing, de-escalation has begun, patient count remains the same. Potential is still High.



Rundown:
40C 57A 41A 41K
40W 40Y 42W
C40(Tracking) C43(Staging) C31(Treatment) C40(HOT Truck)
51 581 512
5G 5D 5L 5 5M12
XR2 XR5
HT2
MV1 MR6 ME5 LS8

52nd Street Street
33A
40X
C46

52nd St Rescue Group
XR5
HT1

E1 Rescue Group
XR2
HT2

Rehab
MERV1 METU5
57A
 
Last edited:
Phone Alarm Box 3999 - 14 Whale Square - Reporting fire in a warehouse - 00:20

BD to B-40: We're also receiving the address of 14 53rd St. reported to be a roof on fire - It seems to be the same address - 00:22

E-201: 10-75 - Looks like we got fire on an upper floor - 00:22

B-40: All Hands on arrival - 00:25

B-40: Transmit the 2nd Alarm - 00:29

D-8: Make it a full 2nd alarm - 00:31

B-40: Corrected address is 17 53rd & 25 53rd St. - 00:33

Box number changed to 2671

D-8: Transmit the 3rd Alarm & Give us an extra chief as a Street Manager Coordinator (B-57) - 00:39

D-8: Make sure Marine 9 is responding with the Fire Fighter II - 00:40

D-8: Be advised this is now an exterior operation - An emergency roll call is being conducted, all members are out of the building - 00:41

D-8: Special call 2 additional TL's and 2 engines to stage on 52nd St. & 1st Ave. - 00:46

BD to D-8: With that request you'll have to transmit the next alarm - 00:46

D-8: Transmit the 4th Alarm - 00:47

FC: Building is 2 story 600 x100 commercial. fire throughout - Per D-8, Exterior attack underway using TL's & Marine companies getting into position - 01:08

FC: Per C-15, Transmit a full 5th Alarm with 2 additional TL's (TL-1 act. 114 & TL-146 act. 131) - 01:13
 
Last edited:
NikFDNY said:
EMS Information - MCI 22 - Box 3999/2671 - CAD 0092

1223 XR2 - A 10-75 is going to be coming over, can you assign me please.

1223 CW1 - Attention all citywide resources, Report of a Fire being transmitted in Brooklyn, off First Avenue, Box 3999, CAD 0092.

1224 LS4 - 63

1224 581 - Show me 63

1224 LS5 - Do you show me going to the MCI in Brooklyn?

1224 CW1/LS5 - 4 Picked it up, ill put you on it thats fine.

1224 CW1/LS4 - 87

1225 LS8 - LS8 is in Brooklyn, show me 63.

1225 CW1/LS5 - Take the 87

1226 40C - Setting up on First Avenue between 54 and 53 Street, Best Access is First Avenue either direction.

1227 40W - 1-2 Minute ETA

1229 CW1/C40 - Going to be known as Medical Branch 3999, Fire is transmitting a Second Alarm, ill get you your resources.

1230 CW1 - Attention all citywide resources, now a Second Alarm.

1234 581 - Show us involved in a MVA on 60th and 5th Avenue. No Injuries to MOS.

1237 512- On your Screen heading to that Second Alarm.

1237 ME5 - 63 for the Second Alarm.

1238 C40 - Building Collapse, start me out an additional ALS, BLS, no reports of members in the building, unknown on Civilians, no injuries at this time, Potential is High.

1241 CW1/HT2 - There was a Partial Building Collapse.

1241 CW1 - Attention all units on the wales? assignment, it is now a Third Alarm.

1248 CW1 - Attention all units, now a Fourth Alarm.

1255 HT2 - Assign me a second rescue for this. (XR5)

1256 HT1 - Show me 63 aswell.

1256 XR5 - You can put us on that.

1256 CW1/HT2 - You got XR5 coming.

0103 CW1/C40 - You have H51 Trauma, H94, H53 Pediatric all Notified.

0104 C40 - Operations are continuing, more of this building has collapsed, potential will remain high to emergency service, no patients at this time, potential for civilians will stay low, Staging will move 54 Street and 1st Avenue, either way up or down on 1st Avenue. C43 will be Staging.

0110 512 - Assuming Control of Medical Branch 2761, Heavy Fire Condition in a Warehouse, Multiple Collapses throughout, hold with the Fourth Alarm Complement, Patient Count is Zero, Potential is high to PSP, Going to enacting a 52nd Street Location for Staging for the Exposure 3, run by C46, will advise the BLS and ALS.

0113 5G - Show me 84 at the Fourth Alarm.

0117 HT1 - Show me 84

0118 CW1/512 - Fire has announced a Fifth Alarm, advise if you want that complement.

0118 512 - Going to maintain a Fourth Alarm Complement.

0123 5D - Show me 63

0125 512 - 5L Division Chief will be taking control of Medical Branch, Operations remain ongoing, Heavy Fire Presence, Potential will be High to PSP, Low to Civilians, No Patients to Report,

0127 512 - Set up a 52nd Street Rescue Group with HT1 and XR5, as well as a Rescue Group on Exposure 1 on 54 with XR2 and HT2.

0136 5 - Show me 63 to the Fifth Alarm no MDT.

0137 512 - Fire Operations continue to ramp up, Potential is still High, Currently have exterior attack by fire with Marine Operations. 5G Assumed Medical Branch.

0142 5M12 - 84 at the Fifth Alarm.

0209 CW1/5 - Staging Location on 54 St and 1st Ave, Second Staging on 52 and 1st Ave.

0209 5 - 10-4, show me 84.

0220 512 - Operations remain ongoing, started to deescalate slightly, potential remains high, patient count has risen to (2) Green Tag Firefighters, currently being moved from the Command Post up to the Treatment Area for transport to local hospitals.

0238 512 - Operations ongoing, Potential remains high, total patient count remains at (2) Green Tag MOS being transported to H51 by 41A

0247 512 - Requesting (1) BLS and (1) ALS for relief of 40C and 40Y

0256 512 - Have (41K & 42W) them make contact with the staging officer.

0329 40C - Show me 98.

0330 40Y - Released by Medical Branch.

0331 512 - Operations remain ongoing, Patient Count remains at (2).

0352 512 - Fire Operations remain ongoing, de-escalation has begun, patient count remains the same. Potential is still High.



Rundown:
40C 57A 41A 41K
40W 40Y 42W
C40(Tracking) C43(Staging) C31(Treatment) C40(HOT Truck)
51 581 512
5G 5D 5L 5 5M12
XR2 XR5
HT2
MV1 MR6 ME5 LS8

52nd Street Street
33A
40X
C46

52nd St Rescue Group
XR5
HT1

E1 Rescue Group
XR2
HT2

Rehab
MERV1 METU5
57A
Click to expand...
Any idea the total number of EMS responders when added up? (I don’t know staffing levels)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top