11/21/17 Bronx 2nd Alarm Box 3152

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UnitWithTheUrgent

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Address: 2250 Aqueduct Ave.

Fire in a 3 story 25x60 vacant PD.

B-19: All Hands on arrival, extra E&T. (E-95 & L-27) - 20:35

L-36 FAST

B-19: "Urgent" - Transmit a 2nd Alarm, heavy fire in a vacant PD. - 20:40

D-7: Assign an additional BC above the 2nd. (B-14) - 20:41

B-19: 3 L/S, 2 L/O,  exterior operations due to stability issues. - 20:43

*Have to sign out now, anyone feel free to update*
 
UnitWithTheUrgent said:
Address: 2250 Aqueduct Ave.

Fire in a 3 story 25x60 vacant PD.

B-19: All Hands on arrival, extra E&T. (E-95 & L-27) - 20:35

L-36 FAST

B-19: "Urgent" - Transmit a 2nd Alarm, heavy fire in a vacant PD. - 20:40

D-7: Assign an additional BC above the 2nd. (B-14) - 20:41

B-19: 3 L/S, 2 L/O,  exterior operations due to stability issues. - 20:43

*Have to sign out now, anyone feel free to update*
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BN-26 Safety,BN-18 RUL,BN-17

S/C 1 TL..TL-46

21:15..D-7, 5 L/S, 3 L/O, 1 multiversal in operation, TL's being set up

21:24..FC, S/C 1 TL..TL-33

21:43..FC, 5 L/S/O, 2 Deck Guns, 1 Ladder Pipe in operation

21:46..FC, D-7 requesting PD to respond to Aqueduct Ave. & Buchanan Pl., we have some questions for them.

21:57..FC, per D-7, PWH, 10-41 code 4



https://www.google.com/maps/place/2250+Aqueduct+Ave,+Bronx,+NY+10453/@40.8589053,-73.9072696,3a,90y,132.99h,105.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sU1odtKwU2zvXjwKRqQng4w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c2f474191c856d:0x58684e1d808afc66!8m2!3d40.8588564!4d-73.9070844
 
UnitWithTheUrgent said:
Address: 2250 Aqueduct Ave.

Fire in a 3 story 25x60 vacant PD.

B-19: All Hands on arrival, extra E&T. (E-95 & L-27) - 20:35

L-36 FAST

B-19: "Urgent" - Transmit a 2nd Alarm, heavy fire in a vacant PD. - 20:40

D-7: Assign an additional BC above the 2nd. (B-14) - 20:41

B-19: 3 L/S, 2 L/O,  exterior operations due to stability issues. - 20:43

*Have to sign out now, anyone feel free to update*
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*G-Man*
E-75,42,46,48,95s/c
L-59,56,36(Fast),27s/c
B-19,27
R-3
Sq-41
D-7
Rac-3

2nd Alarm
E-88,93,50,35(Comm)
E-72 w/ Sat.2
L-37,46s/c,33s/c
B-17(FF)
B-18(RUL)
B-26(Safety)
B-14s/c
RB,SB
FC,FCB
Tac-1
CTU


L-33 Box 5104
E-43 Box 7777
 
No tower ladders until the s/c units on the second, one of which was 33 truck which was their first due box.  LOL to your comment Ray.  Deck gun was the suitable option, LOL
 
I thought I read some time ago that the FDNY did not use ladder pipes due to personnel safety concerns, but they were used in this job and at the Manhattan 6th alarm last week. Was there a change in procedures?
Also a rare use of deck pipes on this job. 
 
Ala117 said:
I thought I read some time ago that the FDNY did not use ladder pipes due to personnel safety concerns, but they were used in this job and at the Manhattan 6th alarm last week. Was there a change in procedures?
Also a rare use of deck pipes on this job.
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The only thing that was stopped was the old practice of having a FF at the tip of the Aerial directing the stream....it is strictly controlled by halyards from the turntable to raise &  lower the pipe & by the use of side to side rotation of the turntable.
 
it did blow my mind seein that ladder pipe at the 6th... with all the towers i thought the pipes on the ladder trucks were just a formality in fdny any more.
 
68jk09 said:
Ala117 said:
I thought I read some time ago that the FDNY did not use ladder pipes due to personnel safety concerns, but they were used in this job and at the Manhattan 6th alarm last week. Was there a change in procedures?
Also a rare use of deck pipes on this job.
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The only thing that was stopped was the old practice of having a FF at the tip of the Aerial directing the stream....it is strictly controlled by halyards from the turntable to raise &  lower the pipe & by the use of side to side rotation of the turntable.
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Thanks again Chief for the clarification.
 
One of the 1st due aerials at this box was known for sending their roofman up "on the tip" back in the golden era.  ;)
 
guitarman314 said:
A few years ago H&L34 was the last tiller remaining with 2 (bed & tip) ladderpipes. ;)
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Early Bed Ladderpipes on Metal Aerials had the Nozzle permanently in place at near the  top of the first section plus the 3 1/2" hose to supply it was belted (w/leather straps) to the first section & then fed into a permanetley attached double  3 1/2" gate & the up & down motion was by a crank attached to a steel cable & the side to side motion was by rotation of the turntable ..... (when i was in 108 we always had a reducer from 3 1/2" to 2 1/2" in place on one side of the gated 3 1/2" Siamese  plus 2 lengths of 2 1/2" hose (neither end connected ) packed on a rack below & coming off w/the female first so one FF  could rapidly stretch to a nearby Pumper if a quick knockdown was needed for heavy Fire in a vacant or a factory......one of the tactics that we developed was that w/the Aerial punching in or pushing down or lifting a roll down w/the Aerial lined the Bed Pipe up w/out any further movement & most times the 2 1/2" supply line did the job or was a help before the siamese gate could be augmented.....also more importantly if the Aerial was in place at a window on the floor above & Fire blew out below it the 2 1/2" could quickly put water not in a window but provide a stream on the building front hitting it between the Fire floor & floor above to protect anyone on the Aerial.....as far as the Ladderpipe on the tip which is all that remains today on Aerials it is a more time consuming evolution to set it up but if an Aerial is in position it is an option once a Fire gets to a major level & is an important evolution to Drill on.   
 
The first FDNY ladderpipes were installed in 1942 under the bed ladders of the wooden 85ft. aerials of L45 (1940 Ahrens-Fox) & L48 (1938 FWD). ;)
 
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