5-12-12 Bronx-3rd Alarm Box 4794

Battalion 33 is always the Air Recon Chief , they are closest to the NYPD Aviation quarters I believe , there's a 99.9% Chance that 33 will always be the Air Recon chief , unless they are on a run.
 
I don't think there was a air-recon chief.I was at this fire and I did not see any helicopter activity at all above the scene.
 
Animalhousefan1 said:
I don't think there was a air-recon chief.I was at this fire and I did not see any helicopter activity at all above the scene.
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One is always assigned on the 3rd alarm but sometimes they don't get airborne.
 
FDNY has trained several battalions in Brooklyn to be the air chief. On the daily list for Sat. was the 39 batt.  Batt 33 & Batt 58 have also been trained.

Wed was BC 58
Thurs was BC 43
Fri was BC 39
Sat was BC 39

Yes, BC 33 is the nearest to Aviation base, but that does not all ways means that he is the first to go.
 
The air chief was sent yesterday & was returned upon checking in on the radio. Their response is automatic.
 
Atlas said:
FDNY has trained several battalions in Brooklyn to be the air chief. On the daily list for Sat. was the 39 batt.  Batt 33 & Batt 58 have also been trained.

Wed was BC 58
Thurs was BC 43
Fri was BC 39
Sat was BC 39

Yes, BC 33 is the nearest to Aviation base, but that does not all ways means that he is the first to go.
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  Atlas, I appreciate that too. I wasn't aware of the other Battalions either. I always thought it was just the 33. So the 33, 39, 43, and 58 rotate air chief duty days ?
 
I work in B33 and they go most of the time and if not them it's B58. Yes they did get airborne and yes they did make it to the job.
 
What you have to remember is no matter what the specialty that a battalion is trained for, or additional duties assigned to that unit, if there is a coverning chief working there who does not have that speciality, they are not used.

This also hold true in case there is an "acting" chief working in that battalion for the tour, the unit is by-passed. 
 
scamll and Atlas,

You both make my point.

Atlas, is your "more like this assignment" the actual rundown or from some other source? What I posted was from the official City (which you provided me)website that lists the closest companies, by air miles.

Scmall, you are probably correct, STARFIRE would assign L44 in before L's 19, 37, 38 and 58...even though L's 38 and 58 are closer by both air and street miles. In fact, if L38 goes against traffic on 180 st between Webster and the Concourse (likely as it is only 4 blocks) they are a mile away vs 1.6 miles for L44. Big difference. (48/56 are only  .8 if they do the same...closer than 43/59.)

My point is, WHERE IS THE CONSISTENCY? One time it is air miles, another it is street miles, another it is whim.

Is there an actual on this?

And G-man, is there a card?
 
Ah , G-man,, you are ahead of cue tonight. You posted that card before I got my 2 cents in. Thank you.

Now is there a pre-war years card? During the war years, cards were changed to bring the less busy companies to boxes even though they were not closer. In this case it was 92/44, who went up the concourse (as they should have) so as not to bring in companies east of Webster, where all hell was breaking loose.

Just wondering how this stuff works...
 
3511 said:
Ah , G-man,, you are ahead of cue tonight. You posted that card before I got my 2 cents in. Thank you.

Now is there a pre-war years card? During the war years, cards were changed to bring the less busy companies to boxes even though they were not closer. In this case it was 92/44, who went up the concourse (as they should have) so as not to bring in companies east of Webster, where all hell was breaking loose.

Just wondering how this stuff works...
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Sorry, I don't have a pre-"War Years" card for this box :(
 
3511 - Yes my rundown was from a different source. When I did the trucks, the first time, I accidently omitted '44'. SORRY!

What I saw was that they dropped 68 from the assignment. Since 71 moved, it also moved them back one spot. But to bring Eng 52 do there is wrong. They should not go beyond a third alarm response, like the old days.  Also where is 67 on the card?  I still question the responses.
 
Atlas said:
3511 - Yes my rundown was from a different source. When I did the trucks, the first time, I accidently omitted '44'. SORRY!

What I saw was that they dropped 68 from the assignment. Since 71 moved, it also moved them back one spot. But to bring Eng 52 do there is wrong. They should not go beyond a third alarm response, like the old days.  Also where is 67 on the card?  I still question the responses.
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On the old card E68 was on the 4th alarm with E67 relocating to them ;)
 
Thanks to Bob Dobalina

48 Engine got in first due as 75 was on an EMS run. 92 Engine was second due and 46 Engine 3rd due. 42 Engine should have been 2nd due but was OOS for mechanical reasons. 33 Truck was 1st due and got in 1st and 27 was 2nd due and got in 2nd. Also heard that 43 Engine was also on an EMS run when this came in.


 
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