Aerials Over 100 Feet ??

entropychaser said:
I remember talking to some guys in midtown when they had the two high ladder units. They wondered who was going to climb up and operate at the very top. Seems to be an expensive toy. Below 100', overbuilt....above 135', useless.
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LAD*119 with the original Mack Magirus High Ladder was Special Called to a Fire in a Hotel in Downtown BKLYN where a woman was trapped at a window on a high floor.....the Aerial was fully extended & almost reached the window ....Two 119 Members were almost at the tip when the woman clothes on Fire jumped & was briefly caught by a FF at the Tip but she slipped & was killed. .....there was a picture of it on this site awhile back....not sure what thread it is in ?
 
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68jk09 said:
LAD*119 with the original Mack Magirus High Ladder was Special Called to a Fire in a Hotel in Downtown BKLYN where a woman was trapped at a window on a high floor.....the Aerial was fully extended & almost reached the window ....Two 119 Members were almost at the tip when the woman clothes on Fire jumped & was caught by a FF at the Tip.....there was a picture of it on this site awhile back....not sure what thread it is in ?
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l remember seeing that , probably on the high ladder thread.
 
68jk09 said:
LAD*119 with the original Mack Magirus High Ladder was Special Called to a Fire in a Hotel in Downtown BKLYN where a woman was trapped at a window on a high floor.....the Aerial was fully extended & almost reached the window ....Two 119 Members were almost at the tip when the woman clothes on Fire jumped & was caught by a FF at the Tip.....there was a picture of it on this site awhile back....not sure what thread it is in ?
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Wasn't that the old Standish hotel on Columbia Heights? I remember that picture also.
 
Sorry but the mack magirus was 146 ft NOT 144ft as wrongly repeatedly stated on this forum over and over again...
 
FDNY has at last count if I remember correctly 142 ladder companies. To make rescues with aerials you have to be first and worse case scenario second due aerial to get in front of fire building. So specialized high teach ladders generally don’t make grabs unless they are first due. The extra weight and vehicle length would keep them out of many FDNY houses. Now for the big factor. Many NYC buildings have setback and access problems - the projects, the 6-7 story apartment buildings on Sedgwick and cedar in the Bronx and in highbridge that are built into sides of hill and the only access is the #1 side. The high rises all over the city - even high reach ladders would have very little scrub area on these buildings. And the 174 foot and 225 foot European style articulating high reach booms have such a large tormentor/ jack spread that it would be limited on many of the Manhattan crosstreets The expensive and loss of maneuvering ability etc are not worth it for the little gains and extra maintenance - can’t even keep the existing RM and TLs in service. FDNY has mastered the art of interior stairwell / standpipe firefighting and is blessed with a larger than average response force on initial alarms. Grabs would continue to made from the inside or by rope before one of these super ladders would be able to arrive and be set up. Firefighting? Again FDNY has become very adept at fighting fires beyond the reach of aerial master steams so an extra floor or 3 in height access dosent really mean anything in a city of skyscrapers. Now - should FDNY have one Or two of those 174 foot or more articulated booms for technical rescues, train accidents on the elevated viaducts in Queens etc.? Maybe. Just my opinion Happy New Year
 
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