Boston 7 alarm: 3-3-13

0415 Warren Street  Roxbury  box struck - vacant 3 story building under renovation - 2nd alarm on arrival
 
BOX 2142  LOCATION: WARREN & MORELAND STS
124-126 Warren St; wood, commercial building, vacant, under renovation; fully involved on arrival; collapse; extension to 57 Winthrop St (4-story brick dwelling w/Mansard roof); extensions to roof 132 and 126 Warren St (3-story brick dwellings)

IC  Lt Santangelo L-23, Lorenz D-7(Ops), Jones H-1(Safety), Dowling D-9(Rit), Act DC Mullane L-18/D-4a(2nd), Act DC Tully E-14/D-8a(Act), Fleming C-7(IC), Hasson C-1 (C o D), Fontana C-2 (C o O), Shea K-1(FPD)

0412 1st Alarm        By FA        E 14-3-42      L 4-23        R-2        D-7(Ops)           
0413 Rehab and RIT COs By FA  E 21            L 7-TL-10    RHU        D-9(Rit), H-1(Safety)         
0416 2nd Alarm        By L-23    E 24-22-37      L 26          SU ASU TaC  D-4a(2nd), D-8a(Act) C-7(IC) A-65 A-10   
0416 3rd Alarm       By L-23    E 28-4          L 17
0422 4th Alarm        By D-7      E 17-10
0425 5th Alarm        BY C-7      E 33-55-7      L 16                      C-1 CoD, C-2 CoO,  K-1(FPD)
Mutual Aid Brookline E1-E28,Cambridge E3-E33, Quincy E4-E18 Brookline L2-L14 Quincy L5-L7
0427 6th Alarm        By C-7      E 49-30
Mutual Aid Dedham E3-E30, Newton E1-E51, Somerville E2-E32
0436 7th Alarm        By C-7      E 41-32        L 18
Mutual Aid Chelsea E2-E9, Milton E1-E48, Winthrop E1-E56
0800 Detail            By C-7        E 14-24        L 29
1033 All Out  IGNITION FACTOR 11
1033 Detail Terminated    Loss $ 500,000    (*$1M other estimates)

ORIGIN: # 124 1st floor homeless people set small fire to keep warm building became fully involved

Temp +16? 23 mph w/c  -10? 

Thanks  Elliot M. Belin

Note - first arriving truck, L 23, transmitted 2nd and 3rd alarms on arrival - 4 minutes after box was struck
        - temperature was 16 degrees 
        - fire started by homeless
        - 11 outside department companies relocated into Boston to cover vacant quarters
 
Also interesting that the 4th and 6th alarms are only 2 engine companies and no ladders.  They have a total of 7 alarms yet only 8 ladder companies and to the other for RIT.
 
Ret Phila Lieut said:
Kinda sad that Boston has to bring in MA on the 5th.
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By the 5th alarm, almost half of BFD's engines and almost a third of BFD's ladders are at the fire.

5th alarm:  22 engines  7 trucks


BFD gets outside coverage assistance and normally fights the fire with Boston units.
 
Bulldog said:
Also interesting that the 4th and 6th alarms are only 2 engine companies and no ladders.  They have a total of 7 alarms yet only 8 ladder companies and to the other for RIT.
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After a 3rd Alarm, it's only every other Alarm that gets a Truck. 8 Ladders total on a 7th Alarm or above, with 1 for R.I.T. and 1 a Tower Ladder.

In 1980, the BFD went from a 5-Alarm run card to a 9-Alarm run card. Prior to 1980, each alarm level would bring 4 & 2, similar to the way the FDNY has done it and continues to do it. I'm not sure why they made the change.

mack said:
Ret Phila Lieut said:
Kinda sad that Boston has to bring in MA on the 5th.
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By the 5th alarm, almost half of BFD's engines and almost a third of BFD's ladders are at the fire.

5th alarm:  22 engines  7 trucks


BFD gets outside coverage assistance and normally fights the fire with Boston units.
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As mack stated, any M/A goes for station coverage and the BFD units go to the fire. Unless the job is very close to the border w/another city/town, then the M/A units will respond to the fire.

Also, from 1978 to now, the BFD has gone from 44 Engines, 30 Ladders(including 1 Aerial Tower), 2 Rescues, 13 Districts, and 2 Divisions to 34 Engines, 23 Ladders, 2 Rescues, 9 Districts, and 2 Divisions.
 
In the 80s Boston had District 13. A roving chief that covered 4 other district chiefs similar to the FDNYs Battalion 59, 60 etc.
 
nfd2004 said:
In the 80s Boston had District 13. A roving chief that covered 4 other district chiefs similar to the FDNYs Battalion 59, 60 etc.
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I think District 13 ran out of the quarters of Engine 14/Ladder 4 (Fort Dudley) on Dudley St. in Roxbury for a while.
 
The 9 alarm running cards were created to space out the arrival of multiple alarm companies so that the OIC had more time to deploy them before calling for more.  Instead of trying to assign 4 & 2 together, the chief can now assign 2&1 and the 2 more if necessary.  A 9th alarm is still equivalent to the old 5th alarm.
 
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