FDNY "fire watch" "detail companies"

grumpy grizzly

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How does FDNY address a "fire detail or a fire watch" company? Boston has a policy that I do not understand. Busiest ladder company does a fire detail (L-15). Boston should be like FDNY, while NY has certain companies they do not re-locate, BFD should do the same to their ladder companies. L-15 should NEVER be a detail company, they along with TL-17 and L-26 are really busy. Plus L-2 and L-21 are in East Boston, you move one out you have to move somebody else in. Access to Eastie is through the tunnel, draw your own conclusion. And in Brighton L-11 is closer to Newton than some of their first-alarm boxes. Bosto needs extra truck companies, like one at E-51, they lost L-22 due to cutbacks, and maybe another truck at either E-3 or E-22. who lost L-13 for the same reason. If you get L-22 you can detail either L-11 or L14, L-13 frees up the Back Bay companies. Both ideas I think improve response times and areas. I lived in Brighton (D-11) my still response is E-41/L14 from Union Sq, unfortunately they closed E-34. Long run for E29/L11 on the confirmed fire, next help is 33/15, or 37/26, looooooong runs. Gotta be a better way, sorry if I bored you. GG :) 
 
I'm not sure what you mean, pal. Are you talking about going to watchlines for fires, or special events?? I need an example before I can properly answer your question.
 
Fire is declared out but companies are in a stand by mode looking for hot spots etc. All fire companies that were on scene have returned to quarters.
 
grumpy grizzly said:
Fire is declared out but companies are in a stand by mode looking for hot spots etc. All fire companies that were on scene have returned to quarters.
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I beleve it's done in the FDNY, not frequently, but done none the less. I believe it's 1-2 Engines, 1 Truck and maybe a Battalion Chief, but I'm not sure. I remember they did use one at a multi-alarm job fed by gas in Harlem/Upper Manhattan a while back.
 
So then for the most part first and second due companies are releived at the scene to secure the fire scene and prevent a rekindle GG
 
Watch lines are what you are thinking about.  We use them for serious fires or fires that are in sensitive locations, typically because the fire marshals are still investigating.  The box remains active but could be in "under control" status, no greater alarms will be transmited.  Hot spots are taken care of before the box is placed under control, even if that means tower ladders are dumping water on it for a few days....such was the case in Greenpoint as few years ago and at a taxpayer in the Bronx in 2005.  1st due companies will be relieved.  Even if they are relieved in place, thier rig may be boxed in, most times they will just borrow another companies rig to get back. 
 
Dispatcher picks the units.  I was sent to another borough for a watchline and have been to the othr end of my boro.
 
2811 and Tom answered it all for you. We call em watchlines, and we pick the units. It's at the discrection of the IC what they want and how long they want it for. It's usually 3-4 hours. In certain situations, it'll start as say an Engine, TL, and Chief, then down to an Engine and TL, or Truck, then maybe just an engine, depending on what the chief wants.
 
Thanx for the info, I am still against the way Boston does it, Busy companies should not be taken out of their still districts or companies geographically seperated from Boston proper.
 
That's the difference, we don't. We can also grab from other boroughs if need be, like stated earlier.
 
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