Squad 4 did over 10,000 runs in the late 1960s. I was a fireman in Tower Ladder 18 and was going to College for Fire Science, so I was involved in the NASA "Firefighters Integrated Response Ensemble System," = Project F.I.R.E.S, along with member of Squad 4, Ladder 19 and units from Huston, Texas and I think Chicago and L.A.. The FIRES program that was a program to use technology from the NASA space program for other uses. NASAs Technical Utilization Committee ran the program. Out of it came Nomex for turnout coats, the Scott 4.5 SCBA (based on the Astronauts space breathing system) Better fire helmets, and to a certain degree some E.M.S. equipment such as defibullators. (Hope that is spelled right?) Who says the space program was a waste. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired