Boston, MA- 4th Alarm Box 2538

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First due company, heavy fire showing, transmit the second on Box 2538, orders of first due companies. 2 1/2 3 story HEAVY fire showing on all floors.
 
Fire was knocked but District ordered a third. There is heavy over hauling, this was a 2.5 3 story, heavy fire showing on arrival. First due asked for the second.
 
Box 2538: Asticou Rd. and South St., Jamaica Plain/Roslindale

Could be:

Box 2538 Assignment:

Engine 28, Engine 42, Engine 53
Tower Ladder 10, Ladder 16
District 9(Ops.)
Rescue 2

R.I.T./Rehab. Assignment:

Engine 37(R.I.T.)
Ladder 26(R.I.T.), Tower Ladder 3
District 12(R.I.T.)
H1(Safety District Chief)
W25(Rehab. Unit)

2-2538(2nd Alarm) Assignment:

Engine 24, Engine 52, Engine 30
Ladder 29
District, District (Act.)
C7(Division 2)
W12(Air Unit)

3-2538(3rd Alarm) Assignment:

Engine 14, Engine 16
Ladder 23
H2(Special Unit)
T10(Field/Comm. Tac. Unit)
C22(P.I.O.)

4-2538(4th Alarm) Assignment:

Engine 3, Engine 22
 
Several things, this was L-29's first fire with their new rig, a 2013 KME 109'. On the second film in the beginning you can hear the 4th alarm being transmitted. TL-10 transmitted the second alarm upon arrival.
 
Rundown:

SAT 17  GROUP  4/2    BOX 2538  LOCATION: ASTICOU RD NR SOUTH ST         
            39 Asticou Rd-306 South St 2? Story Wood Dwelling 
                               
Capt Murphy TL-10, Act DC Coan E-49/D-12(Ops), Goglia D-8(Rit), Jones H-1(Safety), Act DC Lynch L-26/D-9(2nd), Lorenz D-7(Act), Fleming C-7(IC) 

1312 1st Alarm        By FA  E 28-42-53      TL-10 L 16    R-2        D-12(Ops)

1314 Rehab and Rit Cos By FA  E 16            L 23          RHU        D-8(Rit) H-1(Safety)

1315 2nd Alarm        By TL-10 E 52-24-14    L 29      SU ASU TaC  D-9(2nd) D-7(Act)    C-7(IC) A-65 A-10

1327 3rd Alarm        By C-7  E 7-21-49      L 4

1347 1 X Lad          By C-7                  L 15

1401 4th Alarm        By C-7  E 3-22 For Relief

1401 Special Mutual Aid        Brkl E1-28 Lad 2-14 Quin E4-18

1514 Detail            By C-7  E 10-55        L 7-14
                   
1657 Detail Terminated        IGNITION FACTOR 11

1703 All Out                  Loss $ 350,000
             
ORIGIN: # 39 discarded cigarette on couch 1st floor porch extended to 2nd and 3rd floor porches very heavy fire extended to attic and roof heavy fire
temp +85

Thank you Elliot 
 
In that second and third video mainly the second, did they have a 2 1/2 stretched and operating all the way up to the bucket before the LDH was connected for the pre piped water way. Is this standard practice for boston, shouldn't they have a spot to connect a hand line at the bucket with out running it up the ladder ??
 
BCR said:
In that second and third video mainly the second, did they have a 2 1/2 stretched and operating all the way up to the bucket before the LDH was connected for the pre piped water way. Is this standard practice for boston, shouldn't they have a spot to connect a hand line at the bucket with out running it up the ladder ??
  If you mean a waterway similar to the master stream piped waterway on a TL it would not work well since just like the regular waterway the line could not be shut down at the nozzle unless the boom was never retracted otherwise the seals would blow as the water compresses....when TLs were new to the FDNY this was quickly found out when a shutoff was placed in the bucket end of the prepiped line .....it should only be shut off at the source not at the nozzle end.
 
fdny1075k said:
Box 2538: Asticou Rd. and South St., Jamaica Plain/Roslindale

Could be:

Box 2538 Assignment:

Engine 28, Engine 42, Engine 53
Tower Ladder 10, Ladder 16
District 9(Ops.)
Rescue 2

R.I.T./Rehab. Assignment:

Engine 37(R.I.T.)
Ladder 26(R.I.T.), Tower Ladder 3
District 12(R.I.T.)
H1(Safety District Chief)
W25(Rehab. Unit)

2-2538(2nd Alarm) Assignment:

Engine 24, Engine 52, Engine 30
Ladder 29
District, District (Act.)
C7(Division 2)
W12(Air Unit)

3-2538(3rd Alarm) Assignment:

Engine 14, Engine 16
Ladder 23
H2(Special Unit)
T10(Field/Comm. Tac. Unit)
C22(P.I.O.)

4-2538(4th Alarm) Assignment:

Engine 3, Engine 22


It's generally quite difficult to figure out a response for a four alarm fire in Boston unless you know the city extremely well and what companies cover which houses, otherwise you're wasting your time guessing. 
 
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