columbusfire
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My dept. before I retired used both from Sutphen mainly. I always preferred the Cummins. I just looked up Pierce new deliveries and some are speced with Detroit diesel engines.
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Joebud2006
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I get the feeling that Pierce mfg just dropped Detroit Diesel and switched to PACCAR motors for their engine option. I saw this in their chassis pages that they only offer Cummins and PACCAR motors. They must’ve dropped Detroit recently which they had exclusive rights to.
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Detroit Diesel is also an option on Western Star Trucks.
Per Seagrave, FDNY apparatus uses the Cummins X12 500 HP engine. It's listed on their Recent Deliveries page.
You might be right about dropping Detroit. Supposedly, they had a lot of issues due to electrical components and the DPF system. Cummins basically has the monopoly at this point. Life would be a lot better if fire trucks were exempt from the DPF standard. Caterpillar got out of the over-the-road business because of their issues with the DPF system.
New Haven' s rig is a Seagrave chassis with a Rescue 1 body. https://rescue1mfg.com/new-haven-fire-dept/
Doesn’t FDNY require single manufacturer? As in the fact the box is made by Rescue 1 disqualify them?
Another reason why they "paint themselves in a corner". As I've stated before what will they do when there are no bidders?
Right now 95ft TL's are 9, 12, 14, 44, 51, 58,85, 107, 117, 119, 121, 152, 161, 163, 172.
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Near as I can tell, it's all Seagrave.
This one, too.
Obviously, neither has the recessed light panels that FDNY likes, but I'm confident that Seagrave could figure it out.
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DaveReinstein
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That’s a sharp looking truck. Seagrave make SOME of the best looking trucks out there.
carpandean
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Really quick 'n' dirty mockup:
This is actually the second time that I have mocked up a Seagrave FDNY Rescue. The first was when we built the Seagrave/Saulsbury rescue for Berwyn Heights, MD (later sold to Annville.) It was a customer-supplied Seagrave chassis, but we got the CAD drawings for it. So, for fun, I put it on the E-One/Saulsbury FDNY design that I was working on. Don't recall if I ever printed them out.
This is actually the second time that I have mocked up a Seagrave FDNY Rescue. The first was when we built the Seagrave/Saulsbury rescue for Berwyn Heights, MD (later sold to Annville.) It was a customer-supplied Seagrave chassis, but we got the CAD drawings for it. So, for fun, I put it on the E-One/Saulsbury FDNY design that I was working on. Don't recall if I ever printed them out.
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Can anyone explain to me why anyone needs a 2000 GPM pumper? And where do you find the water supply for it?
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Bulldog
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Just wondering about the special emblems on various companies such as the "Pride of the Point" emblem on this unit. If the design and implementation of it paid for by the company themselves or to the FDNY pay for the genocide in implementation of the logos? You get on most companies including the sides of tower ladders.
I'm confused how they got a picture of the rig with the logo on the logo. Is that the old logo photoshopped on maybe?