Runs & Workers 2010

3511

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Thanks for posting.

You have E89's numbers posted for both them and E88. Do you have 88's actual numbers?
 

3511

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TFiq,

OSW is any incident where members go to work in an occupied building. Stuck elevators in the projects are considered OSW's.

"All Hands" differs also from a 10-75, which is working fire. You can have a 10-75 initially reported, then a ladder company puts it out with a can. Or maybe a 2 and 2, or some other combination.

"All Hands" means just that. All assigned units and personnel are at work for whatever the incident might be (not necessarily a fire.) It was instituted in the 1800's with a signal 7-5 on the telegraph key from the box to let the dispatchers know the companies were engaged and would be out of service for a while. It was then transmiited on the bells to alert other companies that they might have to cover for the working units or have to respond themselves on a 2d alarm.

In the old days it was considered a bad effort to not hold something to All Hands. Some chiefs were even nicknamed "All Hands So-and So" because they almost always kept it to a first alarm. It was not necessarily a popular thing to be called 'cause it meant you were beating up your men to enhance your reputation as a good fire fighting chief.

That's probably more than you asked for but hope it helps.
 

FD347

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3511 said:
Thanks for posting.

You have E89's numbers posted for both them and E88. Do you have 88's actual numbers?

Sheesh. I hate when that happens. I fixed it. Thanks.
 

3511

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No, thank you, FD347, for the effort to post all that data. We all make mistakes. (I do...just ask my ex-wife.)  :)
 

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FD347 said:
After a few months of waiting I finally got my hands on the corrected numbers. I may have a typo or 2 in there so if anyone spots something amiss let me know.

www.FDNewYork.com/rnwindex.asp

Excellent work Frank well done. Could i ask if a Truck Co. helps an Engine with an EMS call do they not get recorded for it?
 

FD347

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They should get credit but those numbers aren't published, at least not publicly.
 

svd385

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As 3511 stated "In the old days it was considered a bad effort to not hold something to All Hands. Some chiefs were even nicknamed "All Hands So-and So" because they almost always kept it to a first alarm. It was not necessarily a popular thing to be called 'cause it meant you were beating up your men to enhance your reputation as a good fire fighting chief."

It was also a sometimes practice to hold the all-hands there would be several special calls for additional engines as well as trucks.
 

grumpy grizzly

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There were some chiefs in Boston  who had reputations. Will check it out this week and get back.
 

mikeindabronx

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I can remember BN Chief's who wanted to hold a job at a 10-30 because they didn't want DC to respond.
 

1075thebox

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hey i also noticed that engine 21 and engine 15 have some duplicate numbers...or maybe its just a coincidence ? ;)
 

CVILLE7111

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Thanks Frank.  Those of us who buff from afar really appreciate the efforts!
 
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